Feb 23, 2018, 06:50pm
Should I be able to change the sex on my drivers ID if I feel like it?
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So, I just heard lesbian blogger Cynthia Yockey tell a m/f transperson that they have a mental illness. It seemed kind of harsh to me.
So, what do you guys think? Oops, sorry. What do you persons think?
It really does get tricky. Can a person with all of the normal sex organs of one sex claim to be of the opposite sex? If a person who has the sexual characteristics of one, and they claim to be something else, should it be a crime to intentionally identify them with a pronoun other than that as which they identify?
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Feb 28, 2018, 02:19pm

what the fuck? i defended chem trail conspiracy?

kumquat is convinced that you used to post here under the name "Libertarian", despite the fact that there is absolutely no similarity in writing styles.
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Feb 28, 2018, 04:02pm

You can't solely blame the sheriff's office for this, there was a whole bunch of stuff leading up to the shooting, including but not limited to ease of access to high capacity clips and semi auto rifles used in combat. The fbi have some blame, society, lack of healthcare (specifically mental health), etc. Blaming the sheriffs is scapegoating.
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Mar 01, 2018, 12:18am

Actually, on this one we might be able to specifically blame the sheriffs office. We might be able to blame them for a whole ton of shady shit that led to this.
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Mar 01, 2018, 11:02am

Yes, he should be investigated. Undoubtedly. They hold responsibility as to why it wasn't stopped, but for why it happened and why Cruz was able to take out 17 people in only a couple of minutes, that's not the sheriff's fault. Well, a little in how many people were taken out, but only really in this case, that blame doesn't hold water in all those other cases, like Vegas and whatnot.
Mar 08, 2018, 02:10pm

I agree with kumquat that "politically correct" was a stupid term to use in the first place, since it allows the obvious retort that anything that falls under it (by accident or on purpose) is now considered the "leftist political agenda". I personally think people should be able to chose what goes on their drivers license. If it really is your license, your picture will match your face no matter what sex you are, or what you're presenting as (even if it has changed since the photo). If it will keep some people safe, the worst harm it can do is some goof offs will change it to be contrary for no reason?
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Mar 08, 2018, 02:14pm

I don’t think the police need to know what my genitals might look like in order to decide whether I’m driving like a nutter or not.
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Mar 09, 2018, 06:37am

Everything thing gets old and overused. We stigmatize words and phrases. They did a study where interchanged "gun control" and "firearm law" and the latter got more agreement from the population than the former and they purposely targeted red areas to elicit a response.
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Mar 09, 2018, 02:07pm

"I don’t think the police need to know what my genitals might look like in order to decide whether I’m driving like a nutter or not."
The police department has policies for dealing with male vs dealing with females. It prevents people from suing the department. And also, the ability to just be a different person because you feel like it would be highly valuable to dangerous criminals who have a warrant for their arrest. "Nope, not me. That warrant is for a girl named frank4570, I'm not that fugitive described as female, I can prove it right now bro." Male parts or female parts are extremely important for describing a person, and also for deciding who will be doing your strip search at jail.Maybe a biological female would be just fine locked up with a bunch of rapists, maybe not.
Edited by frank4570 on Mar 09, 2018, 02:09pm
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Mar 09, 2018, 03:03pm

This is why you have individual cells, like civilised nations do.
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Mar 09, 2018, 03:15pm

Too tired to type?
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Mar 15, 2018, 09:54pm

Happy medium,
Have the option for gender identity on identification however, still keep original sex classified
We need to stop equating gender identity with sex, because you can't change your sex!
You can only modify your secondary sex characteristics, and alter your body's rhythms by taking hormones not meant in high doses for your sexed body. Without the reliance on hormones, the body goes back to the way it operates.
Therefore, a transman will have the same heart attack symptoms as a woman, because he is still female
and a transwoman will have the same heart attack symptoms as a man because she is still male
these are not inflammatory statements of hate

the mental illness thing is harsh tho, because transgenderism isn't an illness but a symptom of a sick society with archaic notions of gender. People should be free to be as masculine or feminine as you want while understanding that their sex does not determine their personality

but apparently that makes me a mean ol TERF

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