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Where do you think the style of industrial music is headed? It seems like there is a step back to more rock/guitar oriented stuff. What do you think?

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New directions September 05, 2012, 04:47pm
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Aggrotech as it once was is simmeringbdown and being replaced with an infusion of hardstyle. Powernoize like Xotox and Terrorfakt has less of a future than bands that are incorporating organic, tribal sounds into their music, like iVardensphere and Iszoloscope.

Futurepop and industrial electro acts like Imperative Reaction Aesthetic Perfection are defining the futures of their own genres.

And industrial music is dead. Or something.

Fortunately, I think the Combichrist and german nu-industrial is simmering down, too. But Eisenfunk is going to replace them in the new wave of bad industrial club music.

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New directions September 06, 2012, 02:56pm
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Its pretty obvious what will dominate the charts and kid`s earphones...Terror EBM, Agrotech, Harsh Electro, hard ebm, whatever you wan`t to call it, its rising and rising like a phoenix from the flames, spreading its wings!

The popularity of Suicide Commando and bands like C-lekktor are gaining in momentum to such a state, so much so, that terror ebm threatens to eclipse the Sun.

Agrotech is trully dominating.

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New directions September 07, 2012, 03:20pm
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I'm sorry to burst your bubble shitkicker - maybe you say that because that's what you want to believe, maybe because all the trends reach you guys down under 5 years later, but if there's ONE style that's going out of fashion here in Europe, is aggrotech.

Industrial "Rave" is the hot thing in clubs right now, and has been for the past 2 years. But with bands like Icon Of Coil, Seabound and Neuroticfish all announcing the break of their hiatus and coming back in 2013 with new albums, and all already booked to ALL major festivals, I think your worst nightmare will finally come true: be ready for futurepop 2.0

Maybe you'll be able to grow up a little bit, as well, in the meantime.


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New directions September 07, 2012, 03:44pm
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These genres seem to take turns through the years. It's a good point that there are a lot of comebacks recently. They're big names too! Aggrotech has no chance of dying out completely so there's no worries about that. The next year will be an interesting one to watch. That's for sure!

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New directions September 07, 2012, 08:49pm
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I really think its impossible to tell, I cant see any disappearing but I'd bet the cleaner more 'acceptable' styles will continue to thrive due to thats what most listeners seem to prefer. So yeah, Futurepop is probably going to make a big comeback, assuming it ever stopped.

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New directions September 07, 2012, 11:07pm
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The biggest shift will be when people finally stop viewing industrial and (EBM/TBM/aggrotech/futurepop/'industrial' rave) as part of the same scene. I'd say this is already happening on some scale.


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New directions September 08, 2012, 03:00am
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Brapley go segregate yourself along the hipsters and the witch-house people (aka: GOTHS OF THE NEW MILLENNIUM) :-)


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New directions September 08, 2012, 07:00am
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I was listening to Terror nanna back in 2002 Marco dear.

Bollocks Futurepop is going to make a bigger splash, there can`t be that many chicks and bisexual guys voting for bands and actually buying albums. It lacks the substance to stay rellevant, soft music usually appeals only to a personality of the softer kind. in these troubled times the rise of agressive music will flourish. EBM Light will never superceed the dominant force of agrotech.

Agrotech is on a relentless rise as of late, the smash hit success of a few bands is proving that theres even more popularity of the style, possibly then ever before. C-lekktor and the mighty Suicide Commando are on a crash course to even loftier and bigger heights of popularity, rellevance and genre dominance!
Infact agrotech is proving to be even more popular then it was a few years ago. All we need is another Hocico album and its game, set and match. The nanna had a dip in popularity in recent years, but with the success, the esteemed smashing, break out success of some genre leaders and festival gigs filled to the top of the charter....Futurepop and Synthpop fans and artists are shivering as the ever enveloping shadow blocks out the sun.
Wait for the new Suicide commando album....then gnash your teeth in frustration as boys and girls, children of the oontz and clang leap feet first, with reckless abandon into the heaving, seeping pit, known as agrotech once more.
Even the mighty Leplauga cannot pull his cissy boy routine indefinitely, mark my words, he`ll remember what it is to be a man again and pick his balls up from the floor and work on a new Combichrist, balls to the wall agrotech assault will be announced. When the fussing about with sidebands has lost its appeal to the synth mariachis, the banditos of hard floor oontz, expect another Hocico album, the`d be fools to choose to lose momentum now. The shadow of agrotech is growing in size, the agression, the stature...the intensity threatens to envelop the scene once more, the trail blazers are sending out the signal flares with their grand success, other will follow.

Industrial Rock is perhaps doing better then any style of industrial, why do you say ? Amnesia, the KMFDM single of recent times was doing exceptionally well in the billboard dance charts, mainstream success amongst the biggest of commercial, mainstream artists. Sascha and co paving the way for another insurgency of industrial rock, after the rise and fall of the mid 90s to early 2000s. Don`t be surprised if our trusty old guitar flavoured form of industrial eclipses even most ebm variances.

Powernoize is still a solid workhorse, seemingly lessening in popularity in recent times, but not to be counted out, its only a matter of time till a new Terrorfakt album is announced.

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New directions September 08, 2012, 08:37am
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"Brapley go segregate yourself along the hipsters and the witch-house people (aka: GOTHS OF THE NEW MILLENNIUM) "

But witch house is awesome! And speaking of witch house gonna see Holy Other live on Monday! goobey


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New directions September 08, 2012, 08:37am
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shitkicker : man, you really love your drugs.
Gotta love how your views and knowledge on the music world are so extremely limited... but it's funny, so keep on doing it :-)

Edited by: XP8 at September 08, 2012, 08:40am


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New directions September 08, 2012, 08:42am
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"Man, you really love your drugs."


"Gotta love how your views and knowledge on the music world are so extremely limited... but it's funny, so keep on doing it "

Really? I thought my knowledge was diverse? And yes, I is hi-ho-hilarious! ;-)

EDIT: Dammit, you were talking to Shitkicker! rofl

Edited by: Sean2K at September 08, 2012, 08:43am


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New directions September 08, 2012, 08:46am
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yep, you posted while I was posting mine.


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New directions September 08, 2012, 01:37pm
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I'm hoping for digigrind to blow up. Hoping, not expecting.

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New directions September 08, 2012, 03:13pm
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I so need to go to Chile, my friend promised we`d snort uncut coke off of hot mami`s culos!

Did anyone else apart from KMFDM manage to debut in the top ten dance charts on the billboard charts and have their single debut in the top 30 of the billboards ? Thats more success for a single then anyone else this year. Looks like industrial rock still has hope, plus the guitar runs in the music mean its more likely to be played on campus radios and more widespread radiostations in regards to what market they cater too, KMFDM has allways enjoyed lavishings of love from Revolver magazine as well.

Did SC`s Attention Whore not do well on the DAC charts ?
Are the sons of hell, like C lekktor and Amduscia not still geting festival and international gigs ?

Agrotech is a rising powerhouse, its ever growing shadow enveloping all the lesser styles under the umbrella. Masculine, intense, macho and agressive, stylish and sexy, fashionable, sinister, spooky and encased in dark futurism, it will be the vanguard style. Agrotech will win the civil war, futurepop will be turned asunder, split intwain, blocked by shields broad and brim, the shields being those with more masculine taste in music, futurepop will be inpaled apon the heathen spears of the sons og hell. When the new Suicide Commando album is released, it will light a signal flair for the brothers and sisters of the oontz and clang, the daughters and sons of hell, it will herald in the unstoppable torrent of success for terror nanna. It will be glorious, futurepop darlings will take a break from drawing on their eyebrows as the ground itself shakes and trembles, the sun is blotted out and an eclipse takes place of utter darkness, the civil war will be won and agrotech the victors.

In other words, say you that agrotech will die out and go out of style, await the release of the new Suicide commando album and prepare to eat your words with bitter despair.

Edited by: shitkicker at September 09, 2012, 03:08pm

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New directions September 09, 2012, 05:20am
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The real question is 'does it matter?'

As long as it is moving forwards in some kind of progression... even if it does make a nod to what's gone before (sometimes a REALLY big nod)

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New directions September 09, 2012, 09:35am
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man, the DAC charts are not sales charts. Are just "trend charts", organised by one German promotion agency, Hardbeat Propaganda. The more you pay them, the higher your rise. It's only that, nothing more, nothing else: a promo tool.

Bilboard is the only thing that measure the amount of actual popularity of a band.


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New directions September 09, 2012, 12:35pm
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I have to agree with you marco as I what I'm been dancing to in clubs lately is more rave than industrial. doesn't bother me at all but that seems to be what the DJ's are playing

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New directions September 09, 2012, 02:35pm
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I`m aware of how the dac works, but its djs voting that gets bands in the number ten slot, for dance orientated styles of industrial, this is a big thing.

And yeah, KMFDM doing very well in the billboards with that single is a good nod and a wake up call to their popularity.

Question, Grendel sort of side stepped a lot of the agrotech trappings, introducing new influences and a rather notable 50 percent of their album was dance orientated instrumentals, the progressive take on things is ...what would I call it ? Its still using ebm basslines and a 4/4 beat, but the new vibe and elements would be "rave ?".

I ask this, because I`ve never heard people refering to any electronic style as "rave" before (Happy hardcore, psy trance, hard floor etc etc). Rave is even more trance leads and instrumentals ?

Someone allways has to piss on my chips, when I`m in the middle of my hyperbole rants! I was enjoying that.

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New directions September 09, 2012, 02:46pm
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"Someone allways has to piss on my chips, when I`m in the middle of my hyperbole rants! I was enjoying that."

If you want I can also take a dump on 'em and make poo-tine! ;-)


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New directions September 09, 2012, 03:04pm
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Mmmmm mm whip up some human satay sauce then Sean.

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New directions September 09, 2012, 05:34pm
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I think that at this point bands like Grendel or Aesthetic Perfection defies categorisazions, and surely cannot be confined to "aggrotech/harsh ebm" anymore. Personally I classified the first as Industrial Dance and the second as Alternative Electronics in my iTunes library.

Maybe we are all just going in the EDM/Electronic Dance Music uber-category really.


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New directions September 09, 2012, 05:56pm
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Industrial dance sounds about right, its braod in scope, but sums it up well enough. "Rave" to me was allways an event, not so much a style, it may be an European style I`ve not heard of. EDM is a term I see brought up all the time lately.

What I`d like to see is industrial bands, still using "industrial" sounds. Most of the bands I listen to, still use them, sometimes in a really minimal way, but they`re there.

A hydrolic whine, a steel press, a clang, crunches, whalopping steel drums, theres a wealth of machinery sounds out there and working long hours in a factory, I hear untold ammounts of them every night and morning. The choice of samples is endless. To me its what makes industrial music "industrial". A lot of the ebm crowd don`t seem to care for any industrial sounding samples anymore, fortunately however I still buy cds, like recently, of bands that still use danceable ebm basslines, punctuating synths, 4/4 beats, but still put the effort in to still sound industrial with good use of samples, not just in the token intros either.

On another note altogether, I saw a dream gig, C-lekktor are playing Peru and Chile in October, unfortunately my trip to Chile is next year, looking like I`ve lucked out.

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New directions September 10, 2012, 04:10am
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come to Vampire Party and Resistanz in Belgium and the UK respectively next spring there: C-Lekktor play there (with us/me) and I guess the flight ticket might even be less costy than going to Chile.


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New directions September 10, 2012, 02:32pm
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I just might. Belguim is one place I`d love to visit as I have quite a few E buddies over there. I`d even check out your set. Belgium is like the EBM capital of the world or something.

That reminds me, I never did go on that gothic cruise, or go on that week long adventure of decadence in the Czech Republic last year.

Edited by: shitkicker at September 10, 2012, 02:48pm

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New directions September 11, 2012, 12:14am
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Wow.


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New directions September 11, 2012, 03:53am
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told you, it was class A comedy gold.


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New directions September 11, 2012, 09:15am
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this is where I place my bets about where our scene will be going in the next years, soundwise: http://www.mixcloud.com/azrael2393/crossover-ii/


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New directions September 11, 2012, 01:57pm
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I still bet on either Agrotech, or Industrial Rock ending up as the dominant force. Industrial Rock already was in the 90s with mtv and vh1 pushing it.

LMFAO! You have derpstep songs in your dj playlist!

Edited by: shitkicker at September 11, 2012, 02:15pm

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New directions September 11, 2012, 02:43pm
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Just remember: you live in New Zealand. Things happen 5 years later there.


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New directions September 11, 2012, 03:11pm
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Yes, yes, we`re a third world country, ride everywhere on our sheep and Australians put their children in Kangaroo pouches to be dropped off at school.

If people like Leeb and Sascha are not going to touch derpstep, I doub`t its going to be a major influence in Industrial.

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