Alright, the next plan I'm concocting involves a tattoo with 10-15 small subdermal implants, probably on the backside of my upper arm.
Things I don't know:
1) should the tatt come before or after the implants? Should I expect color loss/change with the introduction of certain types of implants?
2) are certain areas of the body more prone to rejection of said implants?
3) do the implants "drift" underneath the skin? If so, can they be easily replaced?
4) do the implants pose a problem in the event I have to do an MRI or other medical procedure that may or may not be in the modified area? And along those lines, what is the procedure to remove the implants?
... think that covers the questions I had. Yeah. The rest I'll be discussing with le mod professionals that would be poking and stabbing me.
You need to discuss ALL of these things with your professional poker/stabber. I don't think we have any regs on the forum with any extensive knowledge on implants here.
Unless you're talking single point piercings?
My knowledge would lead me to tell you to do implants first, then inks. but I don't know that inking on the implants would be easy, nor would I suggest cutting your tattoo for the implants.
Rejection is based on the individual. Some people have problems with high movement areas more than non moving areas, some people are vice versa.
I have zero idea about migration.
If they are silicone implants, they shouldn't effect an MRI but I'd check with your doc to be sure. And removal is pretty much the opposite of implanting. Cut skin, pull out implant, close skin.
Assuming we're actually talking subdermal and not transdermal or microdermal:
1. Implants first. It will be harder to tattoo over the implants, so make sure you have an artist who's experienced with that, but it's way preferable to the risk of scarring an established tattoo. Also make sure your subdermals are fully healed and set in their permanent place before inking.
2. Subdermals have a REALLY low rejection rate. Like...really low. For a subdermal to reject it actually has to put enough pressure on the skin above it for the skin to break or die off. It's rare and usually because your professional stabber fucked up.
3. Subdermals CAN shift, but again it's not common. If it's gonna shift it will usually do so during healing. Subdermals shift because of anatomy or abuse, so using a pressure bandage and being REALLY careful will help reduce your chances. Sometimes they'll just move 'cause they don't like where they are, in which case you just remove them and replace them. There's no shifting them back.
4. Subdermals are silicone or in some cases teflon, so they won't interfere with an MRI scan in general. They're gonna make it tricky if the scan is specifically to find abnormalities in your arm, but even then a decent doctor can get around it if they know they're there. There are magnetic subdermals on the market, but quite apart from messing with medical tests, they break down over time and can be toxic and are basically just bad news bears. As Lyss said, removal just involves cutting you open and taking 'em out, no big deal.
Also as Lyss said, talk all of this over with your professionals. Find both a piercer experienced in DOING subdermals and a tattooist experienced in TATTOOING subdermals. Lay out your full plans with both of them and talk about the best way to make it work. If at all possible, have them talk to each other about the project as well.
Oh and Bill? If you don't stick a picture of the finished product in the pictures thread, I'll ban you out of spite
I started going around the shops today. I've got a couple names and, to my surprise, there doesn't seem to be anyone experienced in placing implants in Richmond. Plenty of people removing them and inking over them, though, so that part sounds promising. The general consensus is that I should go out and get a custom built silicone implant made so that, in the event of a shift, it all shifts at once and holds together, then get it inked over.
So here's what I'm picturing: I want a DNA double helix on the side of my arm, so it rests like an arm patch. It will probably be a full helix, plus a half-turn on both ends. The insert will give it a look and feel of two beaded strings, similar to the DNA models I built in elementary school.
I really like the look of these colors. This will probably be my model that we build off of.
That is actually genius and I love it, but that's a really big implant, dude. I agree that having one custom instead of 15 beads is a good idea, but you're gonna need someone very experienced to put it in.
I'm not actually surprised you haven't got an artist near you, subdermals are still very much an extreme mod and not commonplace at all. I would -almost- suggest that for something like this you need to travel further than simply the nearest shop that offers it. Like how does flying to AZ grab you?
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I'd do it if that's what it took, but word has it there are a lot of all out body mod prodigies in Northern VA, too. Don't know any of them yet, but I'll be looking into it. Something this complex, I won't settle for anything that's just convenient.
Check in Leesburg VA Tits, there's a shop downtown that I can't recall the name of right now but anyway. There's a few in the town that do mods, whether they have experience with that I don't know but you could check.
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