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this sound May 12, 2012, 01:32pm
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Ever heard of intros, bridges and chorus lines ?

You suck! Mocked! The synth work is competent, but you end up making it sound like videogame music for a kid`s platforming game, like Sonic The Hedgehog.

Lacks substance, needs more layers, do use bridges as you can put more changes in it, more melodies and synthyness.

The beat programming is fucking shit, how hard is it to mix/produce a 4/4 beat ?! For fuck`s sake! I mean really!


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this sound May 12, 2012, 02:51pm
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can't wait to hear what YOU can come up with, shitkicker.
really, amaze us all!
HOW HARD CAN IT BE?


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this sound May 12, 2012, 03:06pm
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I`ll start with Xp8 covers. circles If all fails, my pet monkey can dazzle me with heaps of compression, maybe monkey up some break beats and micro edit glitches. Chimping up glitchy drum loops.

If the youngin had posted music to a terror ebm gimick project, I`m sure our "expert in the field" would have done the usual bashing, like many times in the past. Interesting. hmm Perhaps he likes the synthwork. hmm

Edited by: shitkicker at May 12, 2012, 03:11pm


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this sound May 12, 2012, 03:12pm
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please do it, so we can destroy you later on like you've done it here with this guy.

HOW HARD CAN IT BE, AFTER ALL?


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this sound May 12, 2012, 03:20pm
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The Irony. You are possessed of a sellective long term memory? hmm

Lets see...harpsicord and atmospheric synth intro for 12 bars, ebm bassline....good`ol 4/4 kicks in, some standard saw leads...aw thats right, some bleeps, blips and a few clangs, a big fuck off clang! Some trance leads in the chorus lines..

Anything else you wan`t to hear ? Like maybe a tinkling piano here and there ? A few processed powerchords ?
You can be my director.


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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:01pm
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I rofl at this....dude you need to listen to my work, and get a better idea if variation etc.

Nick can tell you, I know a thing or 2 about this shitsmug

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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:03pm
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Let me help you with that as a matter of fact....

http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_13146814

Edited by: 3rr0r4ngel at May 12, 2012, 04:03pm

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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:07pm
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Aye, pay attention to the maestro extrodinaire, he can teach you things! nod


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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:09pm
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Whoa I wouldn't say I am a master, but I know a thing or 2 about quality production.

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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:12pm
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Rofls! My fucking monkey shit on my midi controller again, may have to take a raincheck on this one.

This is almost as bad as the time he pissed on my laptop!

grr


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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:14pm
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roflDuhfuq? That sir was quite random...may I ask where in your ass you pulled that from?orly

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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:24pm
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Aw I forgot to mention, I hinted at it a few posts up, but I am training a chimp to make industrial music. Its a highly demanding and ambitious project. This is far more ambitious then me recording myself smacking my dick against a bass drum with a shotgun mic. This could change we think of music....forever.

Monkeytime is the ultimate form of industrial! The strongest industrial. But theres been many hicups so far, not least was the stains on my floor.

The main problem I have at the moment is that my protege is still in his formative years, I give him some tab to read and all he usually does is either piss up in the air and drink it, or he picks his ass and falls off the chair after sniffing his finger.

Ah well, I shall persevere, no one ever said genuis, making mgnum opus work, would be easy.


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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:27pm
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roflOmg I think I just died after reading that first part.

hmmSeems legit to me...I can live with thatsmug

Well you better do something about that asap sir, may be a good consideration.

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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:31pm
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The things I do for art Angel, the things I do...but Monkeytime will be well worth the wait.


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this sound May 12, 2012, 04:40pm
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hmmThis could be or turn into a TV SERIEScircles

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this sound May 13, 2012, 05:33am
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Monkeytime - The Ultimate Form of Industrial
the TV show. Now that I'd like to see!

monkeydance lol


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this sound May 13, 2012, 06:04am
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"how hard is it to mix/produce a 4/4 beat ?! For fuck`s sake! I mean really!"

Very.


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this sound May 13, 2012, 01:33pm
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It kinda lacks individuality but it's a good start, I take it you're fairly new at this and it does take a lot of work to master the basics so keep at it, but try not to be too constrained by the program you're using, experiment a bit more.

Oh and it says something when the more professional musicians are telling you to go easy on someone guys! (It says don't act like a dick please if you haven't picked that up)

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this sound May 13, 2012, 02:23pm
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Yeah, but how many of those professional musicians have previously done exactly that in the past ? hmm Irreevant, we`ll be nice to the youngsters...unless its derpstep.

A tv show....I think my chimp in crime needs a mohawk and a pvc vest!

Edited by: shitkicker at May 13, 2012, 02:41pm


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this sound May 13, 2012, 04:56pm
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So, no masterpiece yet, shitkicker ?
So on top of being a misogynist, racist fellow, you are also the kind of person that talks out of his ass?

/sarcasm


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this sound May 13, 2012, 05:11pm
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Wait who does XP?
hmm

Hehehe wait til I spill some news in a couple daysdiddle

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this sound May 13, 2012, 05:19pm
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Talking out of one`s arse ? Now thats something you`d know all about Mr Saviour of EBM and foe of all things "cliche and sceney".

To often speak about the hate one has for sceney cliches is one thing, to denounce better selling, more established artists, is another, to denounce more influential acts and entire styles of music is yet another thing, but one`s credibility do topple down when his last album sells so badly(even for this niche market scene) he prompts a thread to ask people why they thought it did not sell so well, then his lateist album is not....exactly met with critic`s merit seeking writings, nor is it met with an overwhelming positive response.


Why as a consumer of music am I going to provide you with music for free ? What are you going to offer me to coax me into taking time off work(ac actual full time job), to provide the necessary time in which to compose, construct, mix and produce a song for your pissy reasons. What encentive are you going to provide me with ?

This is still about me being one of the many people who just does not think you`re music is any good isn`t it ? You`re still indignified. If I was a seriously racist person, it would be a hate thing, not a humour thing.
Mysogyny is a hate thing, sexism is not, I trust Italian basic education is enough to desern the difference, you just simply forgot.

You`re old enough and hopefully wise enough to know that political correctness is not something often associated with the internet, particularly on social networking sights.
You are honestly the first Italian I have ever met in person, or online that takes silly mafia quotes and harmless Itallian jibes as some form of horrific hate crime.

Not everyone is going to like your music, if they did, you`d sell a lot more and promoters would wan`t you headlining festivals, beinf butthurt for months, is not the mark of a professional musician.

My advice, take in the fact that people here are light hearted, fun loving, silly people, not that different from Sideline, or many music centric forums. Joke back, foll around. You`re not going to find sychophants everywhere, or fanboys/girls. Lose the "seriousness" and the mock "Bigshot" thing. Lighten up, relax and have some laughs. If you honestly got this butthurt over everyone that thinks you suck, you`d be running all over every industrial music forum, this side of the States, to Belguim. Take it on the chin and roll with it. Read one of Caustic`s recent rants, its pretty good advice.

If you really wan`t me to make some music for you, provide me with a clear encentive. Unlike some people, I have a day job, with considerable ammounts of hours, time off work to make music for some unremarkable, butthurt musician on the other side of the world`s critique, means I have to take time off of work, that costs me money. What are you going to give me ?

Well at least you`re not as butthurt as The Dawn Of Ashes guy, that guy gave me a tonne of abuse via inbox.


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this sound May 13, 2012, 05:44pm
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I guess it really hurt you to realise that some people out there don't like the shit as you do.

Also, I find interesting that you are really the only one who things I have a "mock bigshot attitude". Oh, wait, you and that other idiot, disclaimer777.
Which, by chance perhaps, happens to like the same shit "music" you do.
Chance, I'm sure it's only chance.

To make it clear: YOU were the one butthurt realising I was the "one" who DARED talk about those shit music you like. I don't give a flying fuck if you don't like my band or my music, that's the difference. Or if "many others" don't like it either. If you like shit, it's kinda obvious you cannot like XP8.
Clearer now? :-)


ps: I think you are implying out there that my latest album (?) didn't sell well, and that my "lateist" one didn't receive good reviews (???), but your lack of writing skills made it a bit too difficult for me to understand what you really meant.
I guess you should listen to less harsh shitbm!

Edited by: XP8 at May 13, 2012, 05:51pm


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this sound May 13, 2012, 05:51pm
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Dude you why you trying to be such a tough guy badass? Seriously you're a musician and shouldn't be acting like a prick, you make yourself look very bad in front your fans. If you have any, I don't personally like your work, not saying its bad, I like maybe 4 tracks, but it's not hard enough for my taste.

But the point is, act like an adult and stop acting like you're tough man. It's not cool nor do others find it appealing or amusing, you're just making yourself look really douchy.

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this sound May 13, 2012, 05:53pm
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Because I really care about how I appear on a forum... wake up kids, seriously, wake the fuck up. It's a forum, nothing else.


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this sound May 13, 2012, 05:54pm
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I thought people had a right to an opinion. So if he wants to talk shit let him speak his mind as you are doing as well. Don't take shit too seriously as alot of people jsut starting out making industrial music makes some stupid shit some more than others and I think we can all agree on that one.

If Scuffy didn't want to get shit from Nick then maybe he shouldn't have posted it on here and just left it on his page. I personally don't like it. Once something gets posted on here there will ALWAYS be at least 1 person here to start talking shit.


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this sound May 13, 2012, 05:57pm
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to quote AestheticPerfection:

""how hard is it to mix/produce a 4/4 beat ?! For fuck`s sake! I mean really!"

Very."

That's the point of the whole discussion.


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this sound May 13, 2012, 06:01pm
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I think it's fair enough to give honest opinions, but unless the person sharing their music is behaving like an entitled douche then I think people can be asked to tone it down a bit, be constructive and bare in mind what stage they're probably at with their music making. If someone's just starting out it's not very useful to be all 'omg why don't you sound like Combichrist you're shit'.

I think this forum has always been a fairly welcoming one so it would be nice if people can keep things polite.

Edited by: ZVLKX at May 13, 2012, 06:08pm

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this sound May 13, 2012, 06:28pm
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Hey shitkicker - it's called an opinion, and everyone is entitled to one. You don't even have to agree with it! But if you're going to attack someone just because their opinion differs from yours, you might be done playing here.

This isn't the first time I've seen you freak out on someone for no apparent reason, and I'm really not sure what you get out of it, but cut it out.


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this sound May 13, 2012, 06:56pm
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pointupAnd she saves the day!

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