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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands?
April 02, 2012, 10:47am
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I know in hip hop especially the more death/evil type of shit, people basically despise the commercial rappers and groups. They say the mainstream rappers arent true to the culture and therefore hated.
Is there a similar deal in metal?


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 04, 2012, 07:50pm
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I can name one.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 12:29pm
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"yeah thats what i keep hearing, but that doesnt stop it from being B.S."
It's not BS, it's true.
I could name a dozen of "underground bands", but what's the point?


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 12:48pm
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Our idea of "good" doesn't match the definition of "marketable."

Music itself is an art, markets are a science.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 02:21pm
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Or, more correctly, you have a differing opinion on one and you're wrong about the other.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 02:33pm
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Whether something is or isn't marketable isn't an opinion.
It's something that can be tested for "true" or "false" status.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 02:57pm
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"just bcuz they sell more albums doesnt make them better than any technical death metal band"

That's an opinion.

"most people just conform and absorb to whats 'in' at the time."

Something only becomes "in" when enough people are doing it, so that's an empty statement.

"mainstream is a trend"

No, it's a vague term referring to something's social status.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 03:22pm
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"One stupid post away from meeting the banhammer "
lol


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 03:33pm
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I read the thread, and it's 99.9% fact your jokes are poop stare

"is Slayers' guitar player better than any radio band? yes."
Which one?
Also, better? Radio bands obviously display better songwriting skills - they're overall more popular, know the formulas and know how to make money with it.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 04:15pm
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I'd rather just hear dead baby jokes.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 04:41pm
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"is Slayers' guitar player better than any radio band? yes"

I don't consider Kerry King to be a better guitarist than, say, John Meyer by any means.
Most don't.

It's still an opinion.

I'm not easy for you to talk to because you're an idiot.

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UnderTheSign
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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 04:52pm
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Can't you actually put your mod powers to good use for once? lol

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 05:24pm
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Alright, lets talk about Jeff Loomis. What's there to talk about?


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 05:46pm
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From what I've heard, it's alright.
Just sounds like instrumental Nevermore.

My inner guitarist wants to hear wankery, dammit. shakefist

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 05:54pm
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Wankery ruins music.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 05:56pm
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When the entire point of the music is wankery, and the song is structured entirely in said wankery, it's no longer intrusive.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 06:17pm
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No, then it's just boring and soulless.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 06:19pm
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You're entitled to your silly opinion.

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UnderTheSign
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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 06:27pm
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Well, when the entire point is being wankery, it becomes quite wanky... Which won't appeal to anyone but a bunch of guitar freaks.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 06:44pm
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"Mods should not contribute to the derailing of topics."

You're absolutely right. My apologies everyone.

Edited by: VoltairyanMystopia at April 05, 2012, 06:48pm

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Lykathe

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 05, 2012, 07:53pm
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I'm really really failing to see how any of these people are as good as Jesse Ketive.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 07, 2012, 07:55am
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To much wankery makes the place messy and sticky too.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 07, 2012, 04:24pm
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Too many people think like hipsters. Edge vegan faggots.


Apollo

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 07, 2012, 07:19pm
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Yeaaaaah, stop eating all the vegetables and start eating some real meat! Meattt balll poweaaaarrrrrr!


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 07, 2012, 07:35pm
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Meat Is Metal.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 25, 2012, 05:51am
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That's why these forums are ridiculous. Making at hread about a band and asking opinions and getting mad when no one sgrees is futile. Music is completely subjective.

You like what you like. What sounds like cats in a blender to me is symphonic to you.

Except for country music.
We could all do without that forever and a day.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 25, 2012, 12:02pm
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The forums are fine, it's the people that post in them that are the problem.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 25, 2012, 07:22pm
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I ain't bitchin', son.

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UnderTheSign
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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 26, 2012, 03:38pm
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Yes, over the top


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 26, 2012, 10:23pm
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I've always been of the belief that CoF is crap.

I liked the song Nymphetamine, and it barely even qualifies as metal.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? May 23, 2012, 08:25am
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OP: the majority of people posting in here aren't real metalheads. They are "rock fans". Real metalheads usually reject the majority of mainstream crap bands, but that doesn't make us elitists by any stretch. Just means we draw a line at what is and isn't good metal.

It's very similar to the hip-hop scene in that regard; you have a whole lot of posers who think they are oldschool but only listen to radio shit.

Personally I disregard all the people that claim to be metal but don't like people pointing out that they aren't. You know, like half the people who've posted in this thread before me. People who wouldn't know the history of the genre, or be able to distinguish subgenres.

Edited by: Heresiarch at May 23, 2012, 08:30am


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