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juiceCULT

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands?
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I know in hip hop especially the more death/evil type of shit, people basically despise the commercial rappers and groups. They say the mainstream rappers arent true to the culture and therefore hated.
Is there a similar deal in metal?


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 11:24am
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There's a similar deal in every genre of music.

Even Outlaw Country musicians tend to hate mainstream country artists.

Have you never seen what happened to the punk genre?

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 11:38am
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Every form of commerical music, regardless of style, or genre is brutally criticized.

Infact, you can broaden this truth to take into account vaguely popular bands, regardless of the measure of sucess being heavily criticized.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 11:43am
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Its particularly bad in rap music, people laugh at hip hop because of how utterly retarded mtv makes it look. Oh yeah, punk? I think boston has a fairly high punk population so I get a good amount of real punk culture and the mainstream is so far gone from its roots. Music and money can do terrible shit.

but still, Im wondering if metal community is generally more or less accepting to the popular bands

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 12:28pm
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The majority of the metal community IS into the more popular bands because that's the way it is in all music genres.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 03:29pm
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if you consider the metal community as everyone who listens to metal youre right. I see what youre saying but I meant the real metal heads who know their history, paid their dues and such. my bad for being vague.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 03:35pm
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Well, there's so many varying opinions on what that constitutes.

The obsessive aspergersy metal nerds who only listen to KELDRICVTER and insist that if any recording with a fidelity higher than 1998-standard is "overproduced garbage"?
I don't consider them Real Metalheads, I consider them idiots.

Some use the term "hipster" to describe this fake-ass personality now, but good-ol'-fashioned dumbass works fine for me. lol

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 04:38pm
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Everyone I grew up (in Mass) with listened to metal and rap, so when nu-metal came around it was nothing nu.

But typically metalheads are the biggest dicks, next to 'hardcore' fans, about other kinds of music. And mostly, that's only on message boards. IRL, most metalheads I know will listen to almost anything and don't JUST listen to metal.

As far as commercial music, we could give a fuck if a band is still popular, as long as you like the sound, it's fine. It's just most of the SHIT you hear on the radio is just that. SHIT. Bands like Hinder and Puddle of Muck and Nickelshit, it's just fucking annoying. I'd be thrilled to hear a real metal band on the radio again....and I mean metal, not A7X. That's glam.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 05:32pm
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Oh no, not again.
True to culture? What culture? Is there anything to learn then from the culture that goes along with the name 'metal'? Other then do drugs,beer,die young and stupid I mean. And this question could be asked about almost every other possible music culture there is.

Jolly-Rotten: " most metalheads I know will listen to almost anything and don't JUST listen to metal."
Why categorize those people then as 'metalhead'? Does that make any sense then?
Please do not answer that retorical question and kill yourself. I mean, why the hell you use the first person plural when I only hear you that's speaking :/

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 05:35pm
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Well, denying that metal is very much its own subculture would be a pretty stupid statement.

And I don't know many metalheads who don't also listen to other things at least a little bit.
Usually at least classic rock or punk.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 09:23pm
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Not nearly enough! If the kids would stop distracting the metal community by pretending metalcore is metal then metalheads could get back to denigrating actual metal bands. Y


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 02, 2012, 11:50pm
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I'm not entirely sure why anyone argues about anything, We all know Emmure has produced albums that have been ground breaking in each subgenre of Metal. They are both popular, kvltasfvck, and underground.

Without Emmure I'm not sure what our community would be like, probably in shambles.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 02:03am
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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 04:59am
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"and I mean metal, not A7X. That's glam"

try again glam started off in the 70's then ended in the 80's


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 11:39am
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In hip hop/rap theres a whole lot of 'fuck commercial hip hop', 'culture vultures', 'hip hop is dead' shit going on. even on that Im not sure how many people are aware whats happening to the genre. metal seems to be in a healthy state compared to rap


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 11:42am
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"metal seems to be in a healthy state compared to rap"

depends where you look,where I'm from there's hardly any decent rock/metal bands

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 02:28pm
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Same here, all metalcore.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 02:42pm
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There's a decent amount of bands in Northern Ireland, a good few Doom metal and sludge bands, Thrash bands and Death Metal bands. Sure most of the R 'N R(you probably know what bands I'm talking about) suck arse, but there are some decent bands like


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 03:50pm
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"Just shut the fuck up."
Troll successful: 10/10

There are a decent number of good local bands that aren't crap in Orlando.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 04:48pm
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rofl
Trolling is not an era-specific phenomenon.
Obviously you aren't familiar with Johnathan Swift.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 05:07pm
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LOL kay. Well, you enjoy that.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 06:14pm
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Are you done? :-)

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 06:34pm
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rap has culture?


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 07:12pm
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Uhhh, yeah. I mean, it's not any GOOD, but it exists.

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Lykathe

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 08:14pm
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I don't think Emmure cares what you think Moon.

I know I don't.

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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 03, 2012, 08:42pm
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You said Manure heheheheheheheheh heheheh.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 04, 2012, 11:23am
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Nothing wrong with covering a song if you do it right, wheter your band is mainstream or not.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 04, 2012, 11:39am
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Mainstream metal aint that bad, when you take into consideration the equivalents in other niche crowd music styles, fucking hell you should hear what your average Industrial dj spins at clubs...fucking futurepop, thats pretty fucking gay, even actual bum banditos would think it sounded gay. Metal has some gay ass shit, but we have djs that actually spin stuff like vnv(hiv*)nation.

At least the gayest sounding mainstream metal, be it newbmetal or otherwise has at least the slightest hint of heaviness. Ever think to yourself the kids all like shit today and they embarass the true roots of the metal movement, you should fucking count your lucky stars you don`t have the equivalent of futurepop playing in your clubs and headling festivals.

Rivets are getting more prone to arse bandito antics in our clubs these days, pretty soon, all the kids will shave their eyebrows like tranny fanny drag queens and we`ll hear an entire playlist from a dj consisting of nothing but light ebm with some faggoty, earnest, girly vocals, complete with faggoty synth hooks.

Time like this, metal is looking alot more attractive, I might have to pull a turn coat.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 04, 2012, 12:39pm
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Aw man...the radio airplay stuff is formulaic for a reason, major label support stems from signing only bands that can make money.


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how harshly criticized are mainstream bands? April 04, 2012, 05:43pm
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^this guy is awesome

Your favourite band still sucks


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