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Need help just broke old drumset but i need a new one! need help

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Best Place to look for drums online! July 23, 2012, 01:17am
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Musician's Friend: www.musiciansfriend.com
Steve Weiss Music: www.steveweissmusic.com
Sam Ash: www.samash.com

2012 FUCKING SUCKS!!! I'm living in a Dark Generation. 2012 is a Deep Depression year.:-(crygirsadsad 2010 is SO MUCH better.


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Best Place to look for drums online! July 28, 2012, 07:29am
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Check Craigslist too. You'll be amazed at some of the deals you can find.

You may be able to find a high end kit like a Pearl Masters or Tama Starclassic fairly cheap used too.


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Best Place to look for drums online! July 28, 2012, 04:17pm
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Drum Set? Ludwig:Ludwig Classic Maple 7-Piece Double Bass Drum Set with 6.5x14 Acrolite Matte Aluminum Metal Snare Drum photo LudwigClassicMaple7-PieceDoubleBassDrumSetwith65x14AcroliteMetalSnareDrum1909.pngLudwig Legacy Exotic 6-Piece Double Bass Pedal Drum Set with 5x14 Supra-Phonic Bronze Metal Snare Drum photo LudwigLegacyExotic6-PieceDoubleBassPedalDrumSetwith5x14Supra-PhonicBronzeMetalSnareDrum1909.pngLudwig Keystone 6-Piece Double Bass Drum Set photo Keystone_BigBeat_Red_Sparkle.pngLudwig Epic Power 10-Piece Double Bass Drum Set photo LudwigEpicPower10-PieceDoubleBassDrumSet1909-TransparentBlackLacquer.pngLudwig Epic 11-Piece Double Bass Drum Set photo LudwigEpic11-PieceDoubleBassDrumSet1909.png

Snare Drum? Ludwig 14" Supra-Phonic Metal Snare: Chrome (Aluminum/Brass), Black Beauty (Brass), & Bronze.Photobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image Hosting There's also Hammered.Photobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image Hosting There's also Super Sensitive for Supra-Phonic.Photobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image HostingPhotobucket Image Hosting
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Edited by: EmperorHelvetegyt at February 07, 2013, 10:07am

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Best Place to look for drums online! July 28, 2012, 07:19pm
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Acrolites as well for sheer value. ;-)

Aluminum shell for under $100? I wish I could find these where I live.


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Best Place to look for drums online! July 29, 2012, 07:50pm
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There are 2 types of Supra-Phonic Chrome snare:
Chrome over Aluminum (LM400 for 5x14 & LM402 for 6.5x14)


Chrome over Brass (LB400 for 5x14 & LB402 for 6.5x14).

Ludwig 6.5x14 Supra-Phonic Chrome Metal Snare Drum Pictures, Images and Photos
LM300 is 5x14 Chrome over Steel



...And there's also 5x14 Accent Chrome over Steel snare drum (The Cheapest Ludwig Chrome-plated Metal Snare drum.)

Edited by: EmperorHelvetegyt at January 19, 2013, 02:53am

2012 FUCKING SUCKS!!! I'm living in a Dark Generation. 2012 is a Deep Depression year.:-(crygirsadsad 2010 is SO MUCH better.


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Best Place to look for drums online! July 30, 2012, 02:41am
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...And also, Guitar Center: http://www.guitarcenter.com/

Edited by: EmperorHelvetegyt at February 06, 2013, 09:20am

2012 FUCKING SUCKS!!! I'm living in a Dark Generation. 2012 is a Deep Depression year.:-(crygirsadsad 2010 is SO MUCH better.


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Best Place to look for drums online! August 06, 2012, 08:49pm
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...And yes, In my band, I'm looking for someone who can play drums.


Cymbals; Zildjian & Paiste (Please include a China Cymbal.)

2012 FUCKING SUCKS!!! I'm living in a Dark Generation. 2012 is a Deep Depression year.:-(crygirsadsad 2010 is SO MUCH better.


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Best Place to look for drums online! August 07, 2012, 04:19am
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o.O

Why'd you downvote my Masters/Starclassic comment? I commonly see those kits for well under $1000 used. The quality control on them is unparalleled. They are professional level kits that sound incredible. I own a Pearl Reference and the build quality is the best I've seen.

While I wouldn't mind owning a snare like a Supra or an Acrolite, I'd never touch one of their kits. For the money I'd much rather have something else. Also, their Black Beauty's commonly have ugly lug splay which is unacceptable for such an expensive drum.


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Best Place to look for drums online! August 07, 2012, 05:41am
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Ludwig also have drum kits that are under $1,000 like "Element Birch Fusion 6-Piece Shell Pack" ($749), "Accent 5-Piece" ($400 - $650), Ludwig Element 5-Piece Power Shell Pack ($600) (Use to be ($489)), & Epic 6-Piece Modular Double Bass Drum Set ($888).

The Expensive Ludwig kit are Keystone, Centennial, Legacy, Classic Maple, Vistalite (Acrylic Drum sets), & Stainless Steel.

The Affordable/Entry Level Ludwig Kit are Pinnacle, Accent, & Element

The Epic kits are between. I'm not sure what's the price for the Rocker series.

RECENT NOTE: Right now I Thumbs up your Comment. ...And every Drummers change their Kit for every 3 to 5 years.

Right now a lot of drummers right now use Ludwig because of John Bonham.
Led Zeppelin's John Bonham - Ludwig with Remo heads
Led Zeppelin's John Bonham 1973 - Ludwig Vistalite with Remo heads
Led Zeppelin's John Bonham 1969 - Ludwig Classic with Remo heads
Led Zeppelin's John Bonham - Ludwig with Remo heads
Led Zeppelin's John Bonham - Ludwig with Remo heads

Edited by: EmperorHelvetegyt at February 07, 2013, 10:09am

2012 FUCKING SUCKS!!! I'm living in a Dark Generation. 2012 is a Deep Depression year.:-(crygirsadsad 2010 is SO MUCH better.


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Best Place to look for drums online! August 07, 2012, 06:57am
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to MelodicBunnyCore: The Black Beauty are also considered Supra-Phonic (They've been around since '1920s) along with Chrome & Bronze
Ludwig 5x14 Supra-Phonic Black Beauty Snare Drum, LB416 with Tube Lugs
Ludwig 5x14 Supra-Phonic Black Beauty Snare Drum, LB416
Ludwig 6.5x14 Supra-Phonic Black Beauty Snare Drum, LB417. A Ludwig tradition for over 70 years! This Snare Drum has been around for over 70 years.

The most expenseive Ludwig Supra-Phonic Metal snare was Bronze.
Ludwig 5x14 Supra-Phonic Bronze Snare Drum, LB550
Ludwig 6.5x14 Supra-Phonic Bronze Snare Drum

By the way, have you take a look at Gretsch drums? They have Drum sets that are Expensive than Ludwig Keystone, Legacy, & Classic Maple, Which are New Classic & 125th Anniversary Rock Legend 5-Piece Shell Pack ($5,200). ...and yes Pearl does have most Reference series that are around $6,000. Oh yeah the reason why I said Pearl & Tama Overrated is because I seeing every Modern drummers use one (Since the '80s), I'm mostly on to Vintage drums (Beside Pre '1970s Cymbal brand like Zildjian, Wuhan, UFIP, Paiste, & Meinl, Remo heads, 14" Metal snare, & Snare heads with a Power/Center/Reverse Dot.) ...And yes Tama & Pearl does have some decent Snares (Most of them are Metal snare like Chrome over Brass, Chrome over Aluminum, Chrome over Steel, Bronze, Brass, Steel, & Aluminum.) but what's wrong is that I just feel annoyed.

Sorry about that, I wish VF removes Win/Fail nonsense all together, I hope they will in 2013.

2012 FUCKING SUCKS!!! I'm living in a Dark Generation. 2012 is a Deep Depression year.:-(crygirsadsad 2010 is SO MUCH better.


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Best Place to look for drums online! August 07, 2012, 06:23pm
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The quality on Ludwig drums are nowhere near what they used to be. The quality control is inconsistent. That's why I wouldn't recommend them to anyone unless you're picking up an older drum like a snare or something.

Pearl and Tama are popular, yeah...but with good reason. The fit and finish on them is great, and is consistent even amongst their lower lines.

When I bought my kit I didn't brand whore. I wanted a high-end kit with die-cast hoops and a 20" kick, and this happened to be there. I didn't pay anywhere near 6K for it...or even half that for a special order colour. I also bought it new.


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Best Place to look for drums online! August 08, 2012, 02:50am
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Speaking of Finish: I just find out that Ludwig, Pearl, Gretsch, Slingerland, Premier, & Sonor has a same finish which is a "White Marine Pearl" Finish.

Rack & Floor Tom tuning for Gretsch: While I'm watching some Gretsch Drum Kit review on YouTube, Many of Gretsch Catalina Maple 5-Piece Drum Set video Review sound Awful & I keep saying "Tune the Toms & Snare." (Except for the one with White Marine Pearl.).

Drum brand's Population: As of 2010, Tama & Pearl's Population is some what dropping, Gretsch has never been popular by many drummers, not even back in the '70s.

Die Cast Hoops: Many of Gretsch Renown Maple series kits contain Die Cast Hoops.

2012 FUCKING SUCKS!!! I'm living in a Dark Generation. 2012 is a Deep Depression year.:-(crygirsadsad 2010 is SO MUCH better.


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Best Place to look for drums online! August 08, 2012, 09:53pm
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By "fit and finish", I am referring to the overall build quality. Pearl is one of the few companies that actually seals the inside of the shells on their high end drums.

I went with the kit I have now because it had everything I wanted. Also, the ply configuration on these is amazing...they are probably the best sounding kits I've heard. I've looked at Gretsch Renown kits, but they just don't appeal to me. Also, Pearl's customer service is unmatched.


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Best Place to look for drums online! August 27, 2012, 12:29pm
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Fun Fact: On Twitter, Whenever Drummers follow my band on Twitter, They're all using DW Drums & Evans Drumheads, & No they didn't ask to Join.

If they want to follow my band that's okay.

Edited by: EmperorHelvetegyt at August 27, 2012, 01:59pm

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Best Place to look for drums online! September 21, 2012, 03:02am
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Re: The quality on Ludwig drums are nowhere near what they used to be. The quality control is inconsistent. That's why I wouldn't recommend them to anyone unless you're picking up an older drum like a snare or something.

to MelodicBunnyCore: Actually, Ludwig drums STILL sound good & fantastic, You need to Tune them & put good heads in it. Not like Gretsch Renown Maple that you sometimes have to put some Evans E-Rings or Remo Tone Control Rings. (Even though Gretsch does have a lot of good Snare Drums just like Ludwig, Sonor, Yamaha, & Mapex.)

By the way, My band just made a Question, which is "Can a Drummer (For 'Vredesbyrd') can get just a Ludwig snare?" and I said "The answer is Yes, because the price for Supra-Phonic is around ($423 to $667), Even though the Cheapest Ludwig Metal snare are 5x14 Accent Steel Chrome Metal snare ($101), 5x14 LM300 Supra-Phonic Steel Chrome Metal Snare ($125), & 6.5x14 Rocker Chrome Metal Snare ($130)."

Okay, I'm done finish responding. I just need to get that out of my head, Sorry.:-)

Edited by: EmperorHelvetegyt at September 21, 2012, 03:29am


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Best Place to look for drums online! September 22, 2012, 07:52pm
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Any kit will sound good with heads and tuning. That's where most of the variance in sound comes from. "Tone" rings aren't required on any kit...they are a way to achieve a desired sound that isn't ringy. I've played and tuned various high-end drum kits. If you need to use MoonGel or tone rings, simply put, you can't tune. High end drums are designed to resonate, that's the whole point of using isolation mounts and low-mass hardware.

I never said anything about Ludwig drums sounding bad. I know they sound good and are played by countless known musicians. But over the past while, they have been living off their name and putting out a product with less-than-steller quality. There's no excuse that a $600 Black Beauty snare drum should have lug splay because Ludwig was too cheap to put rubber gaskets under the lugs and used cheap, oversized flanged hoops. For that kind of money, the drum should be build perfectly. I can buy a drum half that price from Tama or Pearl and while it may not be as "exclusive" as a Black Beauty, it sure will be built better.

I'm not biased to a specific company. I own snares from various companies (including 2 custom snares) and have a mix of hardware and cymbals. I'm just speaking how it is. It's a well-known fact that Ludwig's quality has been in a slump for years.


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Best Place to look for drums online! October 02, 2012, 03:53am
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The only Ludwig 14" Metal snare I did not include was the 5.5x14 Chief Titanium Metal snare, because the price for the Chief Titanium was $1,399.
Ludwig 5.5x14 The Chief Titanium Metal Snare Drum, The Most expensive Metal Snare.

Edited by: EmperorHelvetegyt at November 21, 2012, 04:01pm

How come all the Bad Guys can get all the Goods and the Good Guys only get just the Bads?


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Best Place to look for drums online! November 04, 2012, 02:19am
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Beside Musician's Friend & Steve Weiss Music, I found there's some couple of Vintage Drum Store website.

Vintage Drum: http://www.vintagedrum.com/category/Drums-Vintage-Drums
Maxwell Drums: http://www.maxwelldrums.com/
Vintage Drums: http://www.vintagedrums.com/

Too bad my all-time favorite snare 'Ludwig 14" Supra-Phonic (Chrome/Black Beauty/Bronze/Hammered) Metal snare drum' got their price raised up at Musician's Friend and Steve Weiss Music.:-(

How come all the Bad Guys can get all the Goods and the Good Guys only get just the Bads?


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Best Place to look for drums online! May 13, 2013, 12:34am
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Beside Ludwig's Metal Snare:
Yamaha 5.5x14 Chrome Aluminum Metal Snare Drum photo Yamaha55x14AluminumChromeMetalSnareDrum1967350.jpgYamaha 5.5x14 Brass Nouveau Metal Snare Drum photo Yamaha55x14BrassNouveauMetalSnareDrum1967400.jpgYamaha 5.5x14 Copper Nouveau Metal Snare Drum photo Yamaha55x14CopperNouveauMetalSnareDrum1967400.jpgGretsch 5x14 Full Range Chrome Steel Metal Snare Drum photo Gretsch5x14CatalinaClubChromeSnareDrum1883139.jpgGretsch 5x14 G-4000 Chrome Brass Metal Snare Drum photo Gretsch5x14G-4000ChromeMetalSnareDrum1883559.pngGretsch 5x14 Brooklyn GB4160 Chrome Brass Metal Snare Drum photo Gretsch5x14BrooklynGB4160ChromeSnareDrum1883299.jpgGretsch 6.5x14 Full Range Hammered Brass Metal Snare Drum photo Gretsch65x14FullRangeHammeredBrassMetalSnareDrum1883379.jpgGretsch 6.5x14 Full Range Legend Brass Metal Snare Drum photo Gretsch65x14FullRangeLegendBrassMetalSnareDrum1883299.jpgGretsch 5x14 G-4000 Hammered Chrome Brass Metal Snare Drum photo Gretsch5x14G-4000HammeredChromeMetalSnareDrum1883429.jpgSonor 5x14 Cast Bronze Metal Snare Drum photo Sonor5x14CastBronzeMetalSnareDrum1875.pngSlingerland 6.5x14 Chrome Brass Metal Snare Drum photo Slingerland65x14ChromeBrassMetalSnareDrum1912449.pngRogers 5.5x14 Dynasonic Chrome Brass Metal Snare Drum photo Rogers55x14DynasonicChromeSnareDrum1849.jpgSonor 5x14 Phil Rudd Signature Chrome Brass Metal Snare Drum photo Sonor5x14PhilRuddSignatureChromeMetalSnareDrum18753992.pngSonor 5x14 S-Classix Chrome Steel Metal Snare Drum photo Sonor5x14S-ClassixChromeMetalSnareDrum1875.jpg

Edited by: EmperorHelvetegyt at May 13, 2013, 12:45am

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