I saw them at Sonisphere back in June/July.
Can't realllyyyy remember what month... I was a little bit disappointed by them. They've been one of my favourite bands since I was quite little. Has anyone else seen them lately? I'd quite like to know you're experience because I have been put off and don't particularly want to see them live after Sonisphere. I'm not having a dig at them. I just want to know if it's still worth it seeing them live
LETS GET CHOCOLATE WASTED.
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I've always wanted to see these guy because I look up to some of their music like "Black Planet, Dominion, and Alice" I know all these songs are typical but, personally I feel like the band deserves more respect for who they are.
If Andrew striclty relied on goths to make a living, he'd be living in a tiny flat with 3 roomates. As I've said in the past, the Sisters made it and had the major label support because they crossovered to a larger audience than just goths.
Heh, I'll say one more thing about it then go back on topic.
Goth musicians who strictly rely on a goth audience, like Voltaire, Lycia, and others tend to only sell about 1500 units per album. And once you factor in the fact the distrubutor, retailer, label, and others take a cut, not very much is left for the artist. So no, there's no way a goth band that stays loyal strictly to goths can make a good living. They have to crossover to make it.
Now going back to the topic at hand..
Yes, I've seen them live twice. The last time I saw them was in 2005 at the House of Blues. Those in back complained about the sound but those of us in front got a damn good show. I got intoxicated by the smoke machine, the lights, and Andrew was in top form. He did a mix of songs from various albums and he did the Comfortable Numb/some kind of stranger medley that just made me get the fuzzies.
I think I have the show on cd somewhere... keep meaning to upload but I'm lazy.
The thing is most people have to work for a living, and when you put 40-50 hours a week into a job you're not going to have time to also write and produce music and be able to go on tour and play shows across the globe. It also costs money to record a professional sounding album that doesn't sound like it was made on an ibook or on low grade equipment in someones garage, and it costs money to get the album distrubuted globally.
Creating big shows like this with the high quality sound..
It costs money..
A band doesn't have to be overly capitalistic to provide a higher quality product for their fans, but they do need to reach a bigger audience in order to get the budget necessary to do so.
And what can possibly be better than making a living off of doing what you love to do?
Honestly you learn to respect musicians for making the money they do. You try living their life style and doing it for free like tribute bands. They all do it for the money. That's the whole point. Getting a contract is apart of being associated with a business.
We're talking Eldritch and he never made a huge fortune, he just made enough to own a nice home, maybe a car or two and have a very financially stable life. And he busted his ass to get there by being on the road a lot touring different cities and countries, and by doing the tv show appearances and releasing the music.
When a man or woman bust their ass working, they deserve to live a good life.
Of course the right wing would disagree, they think those who bust their ass deserve to be raped, while the 1% continue to thrive when they do less of the hard work.
and by deteriorating into a generic rock asshole to appeal to greater audiences to sell out. the point is, he wouldnt mind being kiss. and thats gay. we have very different views on this, integrity is important to me and bands like that have none. music is more important than what people like that believe. its a cash cow to them.
I primarily only listen to artists who I feel create work that is sincere and have some integrity.
Its just I think an artist can be successful while retaining their integrity. The Cure has just as much integrity now as they did back in the day, and still release the music they want to release. That doesn't always make their fans happy, because well many of them want Disintegration II or Wish the Second chapter, but Robert has always pleased himself before others and has always been honest about that.
And Eldritch, we're talking about a guy who intentionally sabotaged his deal with Elektra because they wanted him to do the same thing over and over, while he wanted to grow as an artist. And with integrity comes honesty and him being honest about his appreciation of goths not only showed integrity, it showed he was willing to sacrifice a significant chunk of his fanbase in order to be true to himself.
So to say he lacks integrity because he showed integrity, thats kind of odd in my opinion.
In short, if a band manages to cross over to a bigger fanbase because they intentionally create music they're not really into in order to do so (most pop artists), they suck. But when a band crosses over while staying true to themselves like Nirvana or NIN, thats pretty cool.
Sadly, there's very few Nirvana's in the world and far more Biebers.. but c'est la vie.
I saw them 3 times.
Sisters of Mercy it's my favourite band.
It's a little sad listen to some comentary from Andrew Eldritch. It's he is what he is now it's because the Goth people and their dark wave, so i think he could have a little respect for the fans.
But it's not because of these that i stop listen to them, Sisters is Sisters. I like the band not Andrew Eldritch.