After being delayed multiple times,it's finally begun filming this week.
It's going to be a two part prequel to the LOTR trilogy and the first part is going to be released in December 2012, with the second part coming out December 2013.
Guillermo Del Toro was originally going to direct it, but quit due to the delays and Peter Jackson has taken over as the director.
Martin Freeman will be Bilbo, while Ian McKellen and Elijah Wood will return too.
Since no one touched this question, I might as well answer it.
yeah my bad, that was a pretty dumb question TBH.
And yeah, it really makes more sense that Gimli and Legolas were there at BotFA than not. To those who say they shouldn't coz they weren't mentioned, I remined them that Legolas and Gimli proably didn't even exist at the time of The Hobbit. Makes sense gimli'd be there to back his daddy up, if not to earn a name for himself too.
Logically, though Legolas & Gimli are definitely old enough to have participated in the battle, Aragorn on the other hand would have only been 10 at the time of the battle, so there's no way he could make a cameo appearance.
Logically, though Legolas & Gimli are definitely old enough to have participated in the battle,
Oh, I meant "doesn't exist" as conceptionally, not lore-wise. As in, they aren't explicitly mentioned in The Hobbit because Tolkein had not actually created the characters. Lore-wise, they were alive and kicking at the time.
And you're right about Aragorn. Jesus, I need to start wiki'ing shit before saying it
Jesus, I need to start wiki'ing shit before saying it.
Considering the sheer vast quantities of Tolkien lore buffs like me that are probably in this world, it's probably all there.
I have this really nice big book I got many years ago on Tolkien lore, with timelines and character descriptions and connections, but some of the info in it is rather vague.
I should probably look up some of the stuff I'm unsure about on wiki as well, just to see if I can fill in the blanks.
DMX and I have the same question; Where da hoods at? Hope they include the coloured hoods, those things were cool haha!
I can't wait to see what Balin and Dwalin look like. I was also thinking on Aragorn, and wouldn't he be aound 20-30ish at the time of the Hobbit? IIRC, he was in his eighties during LOTR, and The Hobbit happened 50 years before that, right? Or am I just whack with poo-brain?
I was also thinking on Aragorn, and wouldn't he be aound 20-30ish at the time of the Hobbit? IIRC, he was in his eighties during LOTR, and The Hobbit happened 50 years before that, right? Or am I just whack with poo-brain?
Biblo was 51 at the start of The Hobbit, in 2941 TA.
LotR starts at Bilbo's 111th birthday (3001 TA) so 60 years have passed.
Now, Aragorn is born in 2931 TA, which would put him at 10 at the time of The Hobbit.
10 + 60 = 70
That puts him at 70 at Bilbo's birthday when Bilbo passes the Ring on to Frodo.
However, due to a couple time jumps, there's about 16-17 years left out (or barely touched on) bring it up to the point of where Gollum is released from Mordor and the Ringwraiths are sent out.
Which ultimately puts Aragorn at 87 during the War of the Ring.
Man, I really need more of a life...
When I can actually pull some of these dates out of my head before actually looking it up my book to confirm... that says something.
Pfft, that's nothing compared to some sports nuts out there that know the 1978 batting average for the star player of their local team, or whatever. At least your knowledge is about cool things.
I thought that Aragorn's age in the films (87) was different to his actual age? And Frodo fucked around in the Shire 'till he was 50 before setting out to Rivendell eh? I was pretty sure you would be right, but had a convo with a friend today who reckons Aragorn was 20-30 at the time of The Hobbit
It may be cool to us nerds, but really, it's useless information when you get right down to it.
I mean, really... knowing timelines of fictional fantasy realms is not something to be proud of... unless of course, you're talking to other fictional fantasy realm nerds.
That being said though, yeah, Frodo was 50 when Gandalf finally showed up telling him to take the Ring away and the journey started.
I thought that Aragorn's age in the films (87) was different to his actual age?
(L-R) Ken Stott as Balin and Graham McTavish as Dwalin
Dwarf Lords in their own right, Balin and Dwalin are close relatives of Thorin. Beyond this, these brothers are two of his most loyal and trusted friends. An old warrior, Balin has lived through hard times and fought many battles, yet he harbors doubts about the wisdom of the Quest to retake the Lonely Mountain. Dwalin has no such forebodings Ė his belief in Thorinís leadership is unshakeable. A powerful and bruising fighter, with a natural tendency to distrust anyone who is not a Dwarf, particularly anyone who might be an Elf, Dwalin is not someone to cross lightly.
As a young Dwarf prince, Thorin witnessed the destruction and terror wrought when a great fire-breathing Dragon attacked the Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor. After slaughtering many of Thorinís kin, the great serpent, Smaug, entered The Lonely Mountain and took possession of its vast store of gold and jewels. No-one came to the aid of the surviving Dwarves, and thus, a once proud and noble race was forced into exile. Through long years of hardship, Thorin grew to be a strong and fearless fighter and revered leader. In his heart a fierce desire grew; a desire to reclaim his homeland and destroy the beast that had brought such misery upon his people. So when fate offers him an unusual ally, he seizes the chance for revenge.
Ok, I share the "Fili/Kili look too human" and the "Dwarves need more beard" opinion, but I hardly want PJ dead
Want a 100%-true-to-the-book rendition? Read the book again and use your imagination. Not to mention each Dwarf needs obvious physical distinctions in order to differentiate them for a non-book-reading audience.
I may not agree with certian changes, but come on, wishing some dead because your ideals... that's just low.
I mean, really, who the hell has actually seen a REAL dwarf?
Not I, so I certainly can't say anything about PJ's vision of what he thinks a dwarf should look like.