'That is an easy escape for pacifists like yourself. You prefer others to do the DIRTY work for you whilst you watch and sip your Pinot Noir. Do you know that most Americans were OPPOSED to the involvement in WW2? I guess your history teachers didn't tell you that eh?
Nice try... Do you have anything else to contribute as to why the Catholic Church should NOT be a force for good, other than the blatant lies and false propaganda from your history teachers?'
Whoa, what a load of baseless assumptions you've made about me. Actually, pretty much the same as the majority of your posts - baseless. I'm no pacifist, and the reason I 'sat around' and allowed others to do 'dirty work' for me is because I live in a neutral country that does not participate in war.
As for the rest - I never studied history in school, actually. I educated myself. With regards to Catholocism, again I educated myself and was raised in a Catholic family.
'But it's ok for other users to insult MY Catholic faith is that it?
Is it ok for other users to post responses to this thread and use defamatory terminology such as "raping kids" when referring the Catholic Church?
I think it's YOUR credibility that is at stake here, not mine.
Just out of curiosity, is it ok for someone to post defamatory statements against any other religion?
Yeah, I thought not. It's only Christianity that can [LEGALLY] be bashed to "kingdom come" right?
So much for "Intelligent Discussion"...'
Insulting religion as a whole is NOT the same as personally insulting you.
Some members of the Catholic church DID rape children, so how is this an offensive thing to say? It's not defamatory. It happened. Come to Ireland and almost every person you meet here will know somebody who was sexually abused by the Christian Brothers as a child. So no, saying that they rape kids isn't offensive, because lots of them do.
My credibility isn't at stake at all here, actually. You're the one going on a rampage, not me.
If you don't like the Intelligent Discussion forum, why not just refrain from posting, instead of insulting it?
*puts mod hat on*
Your attitude stinks, and I won't be putting up with it for much longer. Consider this a warning.
What they aught to do to priests who get involved with underage kids in sexual acts is excommunicate them indefinitely, or depending in the extent of rape, castrate them - let this be an example to all the rest.
The Catholic Church has a feminine level which is OK when you know how to handle it in its mysteries of faith. Unfortunately this feminine attribute in faith rituals causes a lot of unconscious trouble to individual growth on earth and beyond too.
The first screw in this Church is quite visible in the demand to attend services or you are damned. There is no more Anti-Christ level than this, in fact beneath what is real Christ and real Anti-Christ are associated. The demand of service is not free nor Godly in an original basis, it's political all the way, or you might say cast oriented or controlled. Of course civilization partisan values anywhere at all is sort of cast oriented but to what extent and how - this is the nature of persona and individually oriented areas anywhere at all.
- It is said that when the truth about the real Christ gets discovered, the average human being doesn't care about the truth him, they'll think he's the Anti-Christ, it's the real Anti-Christ remodeled - more diplomatically in a new system under realistic control like partly in Yin-Yang or Kether and the Sephirot among Jews like in olden days - as a way to understand the relativity of beings beyond the physical in terms of self-discovery and rediscovery in self-directed image of time and place differently.
I am not the witness of any of the things as it's been in religious values and methods of worship till even the dark ages. It's that question - why aren't people more driven by the actual persona within firstly, is it because of temp stages of awareness from youth to adulthood? I see humanity as stupid because of this.
Without giving my own opinion on the matter, as I`m not entirely sure my mind is made up to give a simple yes, or no awnser, I would point out that people who speak out about how the Catholic church is not infact a force for good in the world, only seem to bring up the same alleged cases of child molestation. Thats bad in itself, but the church is large and wide spread, surely these are not as common as people make them out to be, unless they have proof.
To argue that the church is purely wrong, vile, evil etc, people should have more arguments then just the alleged child molestation cases.
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Uncommon child rape? How about a 2004 report that identified almost four and a half thousand cases in the United States alone? How about the Churchs admission that up to five percent of ordained Catholics have been directly involved in child rape, and that the ongoing response is to relocate these monsters?
If you want to be an apologist for the systematic rape of children, that is your choice- but let's not pretend this isn't one of the most evil acts possible.
I consider the abuse of a child to be a very serious crime, but there has to be more then that, it cannot be the sole reason people condemn the Catholic Church. It can`t be the sole reason people can damn a whole religion, based on the corrupt and perverted acts of some priests, that can be solely a damning factor in denouncing and codemning. One could bring up the idea of confession and trusting priests with very important information about people, delicate information at times, that power, that is something people could possibly bring up, as an example.
If all those alleged child sexual abuse cases are true, from those figures people have issued, those high numbers, I have to ask, where are all the convictions in the court of law ?
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The word 'alleged' has been used a lot. Many cases have been proven, and many have resulted in convictions, in Ireland at least. A quick Google would tell you that.
I`m loathe to use google and wikipedia too often, I`d prefer to hear it from from someone in a discussion, like you just did. If these child molestation cases were as profoundly prolific as the claims state, which they may be, would there not be a huge ammount of convictions ? Maybe things are different in New Zealand, but we don`t hear of priests being convicted these days, not even when I was a child do I recall a court case being on the news. I`m ignorrant of the way the corruption and perversion has taken place in Ireland. It does sound pretty sick in my opinion.
I`m neither pro, or anti in stance towards the catholic church, but I personally feel there has to more reason behind condemning a whole religion. The perversion and corruption of some priests cannot wholly damn the whole of them. Surely the church has used some of its wealth to help the poor and less fortunate at least once.
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It's commonly thought in the Catholic Church that its members have powers of state here and in the hereafter, the truth is that they do due to what the governments do as on earth, it's certain things about laws despite of what goes on, right? - Well, in the far-side of life most Catholics including the clergy are nobodies due to their actual nature simplistically.
It's commonly assumed that just because a Catholic leader has such command of power on earth, he definitely may also have in the far-side of life at some point later, nothing can be further from the truth in some cases, why? Because of the actuality of the individual being having to regress to the natural state of being, you might say, one needing to maintain an earth bound like naturalism of living there on his or her own feet on the soil's simplicity there socially of common service to society; Only a few who earned the author like in consciousness that then re-adjust to conditions there socially in position and recognition, and so the same goes similarly on earth.
- See, the reality of souls is not what humans tend to assume in terms of external conditions and actions, it's really more in terms of how a being lives within and in communion therewith the natural nature in spirit-itself, not God the idol-like, not the systematic ways but the actuality within in contemplation, not assumed projections either, it's hard to understand this while you're human.
Organized society in the far-side of life is a no, no info to humans, aye? It's a fact thought not organized societies like in the physical order, only in some ways, and you'll know this from earth sources if you really take the time to search from those that know better than soaping humans with just face value info. Realist knowledge there is sometimes very expensive to get to know - Figure out why!
I'd beware casts (group-systems) orientations are always present but more awake and clear as if a grand general well-being gets you in reality without adjusting to anything or being. See, a common ground of well-being gets discovered in the far-side of life and it's through this that a sort of diplomacy is discovered or yet you get a better ability to find this diplomacy nature as obvious, and know that it's really pointless to cause any trouble, it's a problematic situation on earth due to insecurities in people.
The only real trouble that can prevent your sense of common peace and rediscovering the go get better things there socially is really in the conditioning that gets inside you from back on earth due to lusts and repressions packed in too deep like a disgusting rhythm haunting you naturally, and you wonder then why you can't feel the good nature in general as many do, then you discover where you fit in, and of course providing you have patience, you'll get to live in a simple manner of general duty socially till you get better later, or go to what we may call hell areas for unending lusts of multi-sorts - ways that only promote fire fun-like - red light districts-like - an end or at some point IF you do not get your ass in gear and re-gear periodically, mental unbearable illnesses as in constant general discomfort that make you want to reincarnate and forget that world.
- So you see, beings are not just imaginary beings in the far side of life, they are naturally composites of various chemical energies as solid as on earth with rhythms there-about someways like on earth in stimuli. As for age in appearance, at some point at will, you'll earn the command to recover your early times in your earth history just like or better than back then - more refined in facial features.
Furthermore, the most important thing to establish is how your actual physical nature on earth is encased with an exact double that is not easily recognized by common humans - this accounts for the vampire old stories, when your physical exact double gets supported by one's own body's blood Ectoplasm firstly, second from others bodies any kind of blood later to rise and survive dead till one wakes up to the fact that an end has to come - not a million years can you live in the physical, right? How about a fix up in some way and forgetting the vamps ways, aye? It's written that that's what happened if the stake or burning didn't get them.
the mainstream media goes into high gear, bringing into the forefront some sexual scandal that supposedly occurred 40+ years ago, of which they have absolutely NO proof whatsoever.
Is this the historical revisionism forum?
How many links to the successful prosecutions of priests would it take before you start conceding there might be some proof? There's loads.
Well I was raised Catholic and it wasn't good for me or my family. I even considered becoming a catholic monk at one time and visited monasteries. Some of the work they do is great and other things are bad for us all.....such as original sin.
"Sometimes the heart cries in cascading sunsets and sometimes it cries under the darkness of the new moon....
but it always cries in the hearts of the beloved..."
There is a simplicity in the Catholic church - Wicca-like consciousness and the preservation of youth, then old age, this is good basically, but at large, I'd beware, as science evolves to account for the human body's exact unseen double, the church may have to go underground. Sorry! - Extraterrestrials of various sorts, some just like humans, may be the lead to awake humans on this. Quite on the contrary to what materialist on earth think, right? Right on...
Illegal activity has been going on for a long time in the Catholic church; After all, the church from the artists view is an art and it gets to be known that it's an establishment too, So, room for braking laws is found.
How do you account for the clergy that track lesbians and use them and even abuse them? I do not tolerate this due to what I know of an outcome - of course the artist within gets discovered at some point, so does the lesbian get to have the freedom to exercise the whore nature more freely. The problem I see is in the fact that the apparent lesbian by nature has the potential for a woman of her own but more advanced than common women's general nature.
I am not a Mid-easterner, nor an exact follower of any political system today. I have intuitive info of my own in all I say.
I have little doubt that the Catholic Church will go underground to save itself because it will have a secret which I think will be missed by the future new age revolution. I think I can incorporate that secret in consciousness which is likely to be missed then but in a different way; Who could agree with me? Those who would know the truth about the spirit side of life.
How many links to the successful prosecutions of priests would it take before you start conceding there might be some proof? There's loads."
And who do you think drives these so called courts of conviction? Do you not think that there might be some other forces at work here? Or do you not want to admit it for fear of being banned from this site and LOSING your 30,000 posts?
Yeah, it's fun to jump on the band wagon but when push comes to shove...I think you would be totally defenseless.
So much for theological truths from YOUR perspective...
"How about YOU posting the links or a reference to such an ALLEGED ATROCITY YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
here's some intresting reading:
"PrevalenceIn a statement read out by Archbishop Silvano Maria Tomasi in September 2009, the Holy See stated "We know now that in the last 50 years somewhere between 1.5% and 5% of the Catholic clergy has been involved in sexual abuse cases", adding that this figure was comparable with that of other groups and denominations.[3]
A Perspective on Clergy Sexual Abuse by Dr. Thomas Plante of Santa Clara University and volunteer clinical associate professor at Stanford University states that "approximately 4% of priests during the past half century (and mostly in the 1960s and 1970s) have had a sexual experience with a minor" which "is consistent with male clergy from other religious traditions and is significantly lower than the general adult male population which may double these numbers".[4][5] Additionally, according to Newsweek magazine, the figure in the Catholic Church is similar to that in the rest of the adult population.[6]
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[edit] Africa[edit] KenyaIn 2009 several people came forward with accusations of sexual molestation against an Italian priest working in the country. The Church gave assurances of an investigation, but this has not taken place. However Kenyan police say they found no evidence and believe Sesana is innocent.[7]
In 2010 a young woman alleged that a Catholic priest had undertaken inappropriate sexual activity against her will, but the police and Church authorities had failed to follow up the allegations.[8]
The 2011 RaidiĂł TeilifĂs Éireann (RTE) documentary "A Mission To Prey" brought to notice Kenya's clerical abuse cases, which should have been handled with more transparency. It has subsequently emerged that this program made false allegations against a priest, Fr. Kevin Reynolds, which resulted in the priest being removed from his home and his parish ministry. RTE has subsequently apologised for this programme and has stated that Fr. Reynolds was innocent of the charges stated. RTE has nevertheless left access to this programme even though upwards of 32 Slander & Libel cases are pending.[9][10]
In 2011 a Dutch bishop was reported to be under probe over alleged sex abuse, The Bishop was alleged to have abused a minor when he served as a priest in Ngong diocese some 18 years prior to the report.[11][12]
[edit] TanzaniaSt Michael's Catholic Boarding School, Soni, Tanzania
A prominent United Kingdom member of the order, Fr Kit Cunningham together with three other priests were exposed after Cunningham's death as paedophiles[13][14][15][16] While at Soni, Cunningham perpetrated sexual abuse that made the school, according to one pupil, "a loveless, violent and sad hellhole". Other pupils recall being photographed naked, hauled out of bed at night to have their genitals fondled and other sexual abuse.[14][17] Although known about by the Rosminians before Cunningham's death in 2010, the abuse was only publicly revealed by the media in 2011[18][19][20][20][21][22][23]
[edit] Asia[edit] PhilippinesIn 2002 the Catholic Church apologized for sexual abuses, including adultery, homosexuality and child abuse by two hundred priests over the previous 20 years.[24]
In 2003 at least 34 priests were suspended in a sex abuse scandal involving sexual harassment of women. 20 were from a single diocese.[25]
In 2011, a priest accused of sexually abusing a 17-year old female minor is sheltered by his Bishop, despite calls for his surrender to civil authorities.[26]
[edit] EuropeMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe
[edit] AustriaArchdiocese of Vienna
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Vienna archdiocese
In 1995 Hans Hermann Cardinal Groer stepped down as head of the Catholic Church in Austria following accusations of sexual misconduct. In 1998 he left the country. He remained a Cardinal.[27]
[edit] BelgiumMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe#Belgium
ÂThere have been several abuse cases in Belgium.
Diocese of Antwerp
Former parish priest Bruno Vos of Nieuwmoer parish in Kalmthout was officially charged with rape of a minor by the Belgian judiciary. There are also allegations of possession of child pornography included in the charge.[28]
[edit] CroatiaArchdiocese of Zagreb
Ivan ÄŚuÄŤek convicted [29] in 2000 for sexual abuse of 37 young girls, sentenced to three years in prison, which was later reduced by Supreme Courtto [30] to one and a half years.
Archdiocese of Rijeka
Drago Ljubičić convicted in 2007 was Catholic priest on the isle of Rab sentenced to three years in prison for molesting five teenage boys. He will be the first Catholic priest to serve prison time for sexual abuse in Croatia.[31] When asked by Catholic press agency Glas Koncila (prior to scandal) why children avoid going to church he blamed 'strong influence of communism on island Rab'.[32]
[edit] FranceMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe#France
Seine et marne
Henri Lebras sentenced to ten years for the rape of a twelve-year-old boy between 1995 and 1998.[33]
[edit] GermanyMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe#Germany
In February 2010 Der Spiegel reported that more than 94 clerics and laymen have been suspected of sexual abuse since 1995, but only 30 of those suspects had actually been prosecuted because of legal time constraints on pursuing cases.[34]
[edit] IrelandMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Ireland
See also: Murphy Report and Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse
Archdiocese of Dublin
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Dublin
Several priests who abused children in the United States were Irish Nationals, notably Patrick Colleary, Anthony O'Connell and Oliver O'Grady.
Diocese of Ferns
Main article: Ferns Report
The Ferns Inquiry 2005 - On 22 October 2005 a government-commissioned report compiled by a former Irish Supreme Court judge delivered an indictment of the handling of clerical sex abuse in the Irish diocese of Ferns.
[edit] ItalyMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe#Italy
It is difficult to ascertain the actual statistics for clerical sexual abuse in Italy because the Italian Government has a treaty with the Vatican that guarantees areas of immunity to Vatican officials, including bishops and priests.[35]
Three former students have claimed abuse and 65 former students signed statements saying that they or other students were abused by Catholic priests when attending the Antonio Provolo Institute for the Deaf, a Catholic school for deaf children in Verona, Italy. The abuse is alleged to have occurred from the 1950s to 1980s, and was reportedly conducted by 24 priests including the late bishop of Verona.[36]
[edit] Malta84 allegations had been made as of April 2010 and Lawrence Grech, one of many alleged victims complains that he was abused in an orphanage. Mr Grech complained in 2010 that the Church had been investigating cases for seven years without doing enough that is effective. The pope spoke to Mr Grech and approved his courage in coming forward.[37][38][39]-A Maltese court found that Fr Charles Pulis and Fr Godwin Scerri sexually abused children and sentenced the two men to six years and five years in prison respectively. The church regretted delays before there were proper investigations into the abuse and promised to defrock Fr Pulis.
[40]
Fr. Anthony Mercieca, who was accused by former Florida Congressman Mark Foley of molesting him as a teenager and has admitted "inappropriate encounters", now lives in Malta.[41]
[edit] NetherlandsMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe#Netherlands
Cases of sexual abuse by religious members of the Roman Catholic Church in the Netherlands can since 1995 be notified to a central church institution, called Secretariaat Rooms-Katholiek Kerkgenootschap (SRRK).[42][43]
In 1993, Father H.H.M. Jansen is denounced for sexual abuse during his activities as military pastor and as a faculty member of the seminary of Rolduc.[44]
On 14 May 1998 damages of € 56.800 were paid by the diocese of Rotterdam to the victim of sexual abuse by a diocesan priest in order to avoid civil prosecution.[45]
Father J. Ceelen, pastor of the parishes of Lieshout and of Mariahout (municipality of Laarbeek) quits his post after allegations of sexual abuse on 1 September 2005.[46]
In February 2010 Salesians were accused of sexual abuse in their juvenate Don Rua in 's-Heerenberg. Salesian bishop of Rotterdam van Luyn pleaded for a thorough investigation.[47]
In 2011 the Deetman Commission, acting on the 2010 request of the Conference of Bishops and the Dutch Religious Conference, reported on its inquiry into abuse cases from 1945 to 2010 affecting children entrusted to the care of the church in the Netherlands.[48]
[edit] NorwayGeorg MĂĽller, a former Catholic Bishop in Trondheim, Norway, has admitted to sexually abusing an altar boy in the 1980s when he served as a priest there. MĂĽller, who retired as bishop in 2009, said there were no other victims.[49][50]
[edit] PolandArchdiocese of Poznań
In March 2002 the Archbishop of Poznań, Juliusz Paetz, stepped down following accusations, which he denied, of sexually molesting young priests.[51]
Diocese of PĹ‚ock
In early 2007 allegations surfaced that former Bishop Stanislaw Wielgus (later very briefly Archbishop of Warsaw) was aware that several priests in his former diocese of PĹ‚ock were sexually abusing minors.[52]
[edit] SloveniaArchdiocese of Ljubljana
Franc Frantar - detained in 2006[53] for sexual abuse of up to 16 minors. He was later sentenced to five years in prison.[54] He initially escaped prosecution by escaping to Malawi to work there as a missionary, but returned to Slovenia after Interpol warrant was issued.
[edit] SwedenDiocese of Stockholm
One child was sexually abused by a priest several years in the late 1950s. When the child raised the issue at the time, the priest was protected and the abuse was kept quiet by the church. The victim finally reported the abuse to the Stockholm diocese in December 2005. The victim demanded a public apology from the church. In June 2007 Sweden's Catholic church made a public apology in two newspapers.[55]
[edit] Great BritainMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe#Great Britain
There have been a considerable number of sex abuse cases in the United Kingdom including:
Benedictine Order
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the English Benedictine Congregation
Buckfast Abbey School
In 2007 two former monks from Buckfast Abbey were sentenced for sexually abusing boys.[56][57]
Ealing Abbey / St Benedict's School
In 2009 a monk of Ealing Abbey and former headmaster of the junior department of its associated school, St Benedict's, was sentenced to eight years in prison for sexually abusing boys.[58]
Belmont Abbey / Belmont Abbey School
In 2004 former priest John Kinsey of Belmont Abbey, Herefordshire, was sentenced at Worcester Crown Court for 5 years for sexual assaults on schoolboys in the mid 1980s.[59][60]
[edit] North America[edit] CanadaMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Canada
Archdiocese of St. John's
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in St. John's archdiocese
In the 1990s, criminal proceedings began against members of the Christian Brothers in Newfoundland.
[edit] MexicoMain article: Sexual scandal of Father Marcial Maciel
See also: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Latin America
Fr. Marcial Maciel (1920–2008) founded the Legion of Christ, a Catholic order of priests originating in Mexico. Nine former seminarians of his order accused Maciel of molestation.[61] One retracted his accusation, saying that it was a plot intended to discredit the Legion. Maciel maintained his innocence of the accusations.
[edit] United StatesMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in the United States
Archdiocese of Anchorage
See also: Sexual abuse scandal in the Society of Jesus
In 2007, the Society of Jesus made a $50 million payout to over 100 Inuits who alleged that they had been sexually abused. The settlement did not require them to admit molesting Inuit children, but accusations involved 13 or 14 priests who allegedly molested these children for 30 years.[62]
In 2008, the Diocese of Fairbanks, a co-defendant in the case, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, claiming inability to pay the 140 plaintiffs filing claims against the diocese for alleged sexual abuse by priests or church workers during this period.[63][64][65]
Archdiocese of Boston
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Boston
Allegations of sexual misconduct by priests of the Archdiocese of Boston, and following revelations of a cover-up by the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Bernard Francis Law, became known in 2004, causing Roman Catholics in other dioceses of the United States to investigate similar situations. Cardinal Law's actions prompted public scrutiny of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and the steps taken in response to past and current allegations of sexual misconduct by priests. The events in the Archdiocese of Boston became a national scandal.
Archdiocese of Chicago
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Chicago
Daniel McCormack, a self-confessed sexually abusive priest was sentenced to five years in prison for abusing five boys (8–12 years) in 2001.[66]
Diocese of Crookston
Rev. Joseph Palanivel Jeyapaul was charged with molesting two teenage girls at a Catholic church in Greenbush, Minnesota, a small rural town near the Canadian border. The abuse occurred in 2004, and charges were filed in 2006 and amended in 2007.[67] Without facing legal punishment, Jevapaul returned to his home diocese in Ootacamund, India, where today he works in the church’s diocesan office. A Roseau County, Minnesota attorney is seeking to extradite the priest from India in a criminal case involving one of the girls.[68] The Archbishop of Madras, India (Madras is now called “Chennai”) has asked Jeyapaul to return to the US to face the charges.[69] Jevapaul has said that he will not fight extradition if the US seeks it.[70]
Diocese of Davenport
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Davenport diocese
On October 10, 2006, the Diocese of Davenport filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.[71]
Archdiocese of Denver
In July 2008 the Archdiocese of Denver paid a settlement of $5.5 million dollars to 18 claims of alleged sexual abuse perpetrated by two clerics between the years of 1954 and 1981.[72]
Archdiocese of Dubuque
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Dubuque archdiocese
In 2006 the Archdiocese settled a number of claims of sexual abuse, and the Archbishop offered a personal apology.[73]
Diocese of Fall River
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Fall River diocese
Father James Porter was a Roman Catholic priest who was convicted of molesting 28 children;[74] He admitted sexually abusing at least 100 of both sexes over a period of 30 years, starting in the 1960s.[75] Bishop Sean O'Malley settled 101 abuse claims and initiated a zero-tolerance policy against sexual abuse. He also instituted one of the first comprehensive sexual abuse policies in the Roman Catholic Church.[76]
Diocese of Honolulu
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Honolulu diocese
Reverend Joseph Bukoski, III, SS.CC., Honolulu, Hawaii, a member of the Congregation of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary was canonically removed in 2003 as the pastor of Maria Lanakila Catholic Church in Lahaina by Bishop Francis X. DiLorenzo for allegations relating to sexual improprieties some 30 years earlier. Fr. Bukoski issued a written public apology to his victim on November 12, 2005.
Reverend Mr. James "Ron" Gonsalves, Wailuku, Hawaii, Gonsalves the administrator of Saint Ann Roman Catholic Church in Waihee, Maui, pleaded guilty on May 17, 2006 to several counts of sexual assault on a 12-year-old male. Bishop Clarence Richard Silva has permanently withdrawn his faculties and has initiated laicization proceedings against Deacon Gonsalves with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
Archdiocese of Los Angeles
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Los Angeles
The Archdiocese of Los Angeles agreed to pay out 60 million dollars to settle 45 lawsuits it still faces over 450 other pending cases. According to the Associated Press, 22 priests were involved in the settlement with cases going back as far as the 1930s.[77] 20 million dollars of this was paid by the insurers of the archdiocese. The main administrative office of the archdiocese is due to be sold to cover the cost of these and future law suits. The archdiocese will settle about 500 cases for about $600 million.[78]
Diocese of Memphis
The Diocese of Memphis reached a $2 million settlement with a man who was abused as a boy by Father Juan Carlos Duran, a priest with a history of sexual misconduct with juveniles in St. Louis, Panama, and Bolivia.[79]
Archdiocese of Miami
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Miami archdiocese
Since 1966, the Archdiocese of Miami Insurance Programs have paid $26.1 million in settlement, legal, and counseling costs associated with sexual misconduct allegations made by minors involving priests, laity and religious brothers and sisters.[80]
Archdiocese of Milwaukee
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Catholic archdiocese of Milwaukee
A 2003 report on the sexual abuse of minors by clergy in the Archdiocese of Milwaukee revealed that allegations of sexually assaulting minors had been made against 58 ordained men.[citation needed] By early 2009, the Archdiocese of Milwaukee had spent approximately $26.5 million in attorney fees and settlements. Under Archbishop Timothy Dolan the archdiocese was able to avoid bankruptcy from lawsuits.[81]
A Wisconsin priest, the Rev. Lawrence C Murphy, who taught at the former St. John School for the Deaf in the Milwaukee suburb of St. Francis, Wisconsin from 1950 to 1974, allegedly molested more than 200 deaf boys. Several U.S. bishops warned the Vatican that failure to act on the matter could embarrass the church. Murphy was moved by then Milwaukee Archbishop William E Cousins to Superior, Wisconsin, a small city near Lake Superior, where he spent his final 24 years working with children in parishes, schools and a juvenile detention center. He died in 1998. As of March 2010, there were four outstanding lawsuits against the Archdiocese of Milwaukee in the case.[82][83]
Diocese of Oakland
In 1981, the former Rev. Stephen Kiesle was convicted for tying up and molesting two boys in a California church rectory.[84] From 1981 to 1985, Bishop John Stephen Cummins, who oversaw Kiesle, contacted the Vatican about defrocking him. Then-cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI, responded by letter that the case needed more time, as it was "necessary to consider the good of the Universal Church" and "the detriment that granting the dispensation" could provoke among the faithful. In 1987, the Vatican defrocked Kiesle. The letter was widely regarded as evidence of Ratzinger's role in blocking the removal of pedophile priests.[85][86] Vatican officials responded that that interpretation rested on a misreading of the letter, in which the issue was not whether Kiesle should be defrocked but whether he should be granted the dispensation he had requested from the obligation of chastity. By refusing to grant such a dispensation right away in the Kiesle case, Ratzinger was actually being tough with an abuser, not lax.[87][88]
Archdiocese of Omaha
During his tenure as the Bishop of Helena, Montana, Archbishop Elden Francis Curtiss chose to reassign a priest who had been accused of pedophilia in 1959, later admitting that he had not properly examined the church's personnel file on the individual concerned. Curtiss faced similar criticism in 2001 in regard to a priest accused of accessing child pornography. Curtiss, it was alleged, had failed to bring the case to the attention of the authorities, and had chosen to send the priest for counseling and to reassign the priest, removing him from his high-school teaching position but reassigning him to a middle-school.[89]
Diocese of Orange, California
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic diocese of Orange
On January 3, 2005 Bishop Tod Brown of the Diocese of Orange apologized to 87 alleged victims of sexual abuse and announced a settlement of $100 million following two years of mediation.
Diocese of Palm Beach
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic diocese of Palm Beach
Joseph Keith Symons resigned as ordinary in 1998 after admitting he molested five boys while he was a pastor.[90]
Diocese of Peoria
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Peoria diocese
Coadjutor Bishop John J. Myers of Peoria was among the two-thirds of sitting bishops and acting diocese administrators that the Dallas Morning News found had allowed priests accused of sexual abuse to continue working.[91]
In 2005, Rev. Francis Engels pleaded guilty to molesting a Peoria altar boy on trips to Milwaukee in the early 1980s.[92]
Archdiocese of Philadelphia
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Philadelphia
According to a 2005 investigation, while serving as assistant vicar for administration in 1996, Bishop Cistone was involved with silencing a nun who tried to alert parishioners at St. Gabriel parish about abuse by a priest. According to the report, there were several other instances of priest sexual abuse that Cistone was complicit in covering up.[93] In February 2011, Monsignor William Lynn, former secretary of the clergy for the Philadelphia Archdiocese, was charged with child endangerment, marking the first time that a high-ranking official has been charged since the eruption of sex abuse scandals nearly ten years prior.[94] Lynn was found by a grand jury to have placed pedophiles in posts involving contact with children, which led directly to the sexual assault of two boys. Three priests and one teacher face rape charges.
Diocese of Phoenix
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Phoenix diocese
On November 21, 2005, Monsignor Dale Fushek of the Diocese of Phoenix was arrested and charged with 10 criminal misdemeanor counts related to alleged inappropriate sexual contact with teens and young adults.[95]
Archdiocese of Portland
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Portland archdiocese
The Archdiocese of Portland filed for Chapter 11 reorganization on July 6, 2004, hours before two abuse trials were set to begin.[citation needed] Portland became the first Catholic diocese to file for bankruptcy. An open letter to the archdiocese's parishioners explained the archbishop's motivation.
Archdiocese of San Antonio
John Salazar was sentenced to life in prison for sexually assaulting a 18-year-old parishioner.[96]
Diocese of San Diego
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in San Diego diocese
On February 27, 2007, the Diocese of San Diego filed for Chapter 11 protection, hours before the first of about 150 lawsuits was due to be heard.[citation needed]
Diocese of Savannah
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic diocese of Savannah
In October, 2009, the diocese of Savannah paid $4.24 million to settle a lawsuit which alleged that Lessard allowed a priest named Wayland Brown to work in the diocese when Lessard knew that Brown was a serial child molester who posed a danger to children.[97]
Diocese of Spokane
Under Bishop William S. Skylstad the Diocese of Spokane declared bankruptcy in December 2004. As part of its bankruptcy, the diocese has agreed to pay at least $48 million as compensation. This payout has to be agreed to by the victims and a judge before it will be made. According to federal bankruptcy judge, Gregg W. Zive, money for the settlement would come from insurance companies, the sale of church property, contributions from Catholic groups and from the diocese's parishes.[98]
Diocese of Stockton
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Stockton diocese
Fr. Oliver O'Grady molested multiple children in Stockton.[99] The 2006 documentary Deliver Us From Evil is based on accusations that Bishop Roger Mahony knew that Oliver O'Grady was an active pedophile.[100]
Diocese of Tucson
The Diocese of Tucson filed for bankruptcy in September, 2004. It reached an agreement with plaintiffs, which the bankruptcy judge approved on June 11, 2005, specifying terms that included allowing the diocese reorganization to continue in return for a $22.2 million settlement.[101]
[edit] Oceania[edit] AustraliaMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Australia
Archdiocese of Sydney
Ross Murrin: Catholic brother pleaded guilty to sexually abusing eight male students.[102]
Archdiocese of Melbourne
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne
There were several cases of sexual abuse in the Melbourne Archdiocese.
Michael Charles Glennon: former diocesan priest, sentenced to at least 15 years in jail for sexually abusing four Aboriginal boys between 1984 and 1991.[103]
Gerry Francis Ridsdale: convicted in 1994, he pled guilty on 46 sexual offenses.[104]
Wilfred James Baker: sentenced to four years in prison (parole after 2 years) for crimes involving eight boys.[105]
David Daniel: sentenced to six years jail, with parole after 4.5 years, for molesting four boys, a girl and an adult male.[106]
Paul Pavlou: convicted on 29 June 2009 of committing an indecent act with a child under 16 and of being knowingly in possession of child pornography. He was sentenced to an 18 month jail sentence suspended for 24 months and to a two-year community based order. He was registered on the Sex Offenders Register for 15 years. These offences occurred in 2005-2006 while he was the priest at Healesville in the Archdiocese of Melbourne.[107][108]
John Ayres SDB: The Salesian Order is alleged to have had an Australian victim sign a secrecy agreement and paid him compensation in 2000 in regard to allegations about Ayer's actions.[109]
Francis Klep SDB: convicted of indecent assault in 1994, and charged with an additional five counts. He moved to Samoa, but in 2004 the Samoan government made moves to deport him from the country after becoming aware of the previous conviction and charges.[110]
[edit] New ZealandMain article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in New Zealand
The abuse scandal at the Marylands School is an important chapter in the clerical abuse affairs in New Zealand but other cases have also emerged.
[edit] South AmericaSee also: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Latin America
[edit] ArgentinaJulio Grassi was found guilty (by a three-judge panel of the Criminal Court Oral 1 Morón) of one count of sexual abuse and one count of corrupting a minor in the “Happy Children’s Foundation”.[111]
Archdiocese of Santa Fe de la Vera Cruz
Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Santa Fe de la Vera Cruz archdiocese
Allegations of sexual abuse on 47 young seminarists surfaced in 1994.[112]
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Vermin
