most people confuse bands like the minutemen and husker du with post punk. not so much... theyre hardcore turned alternative. that whole group of SST alt bands and alike are that way. the meatpuppets, replacements, etc.
post punk is way more artsy, less raw. ala Wire, joy division, mission of burma. those bands rule. but they arent punk for a reason. most post punks hated punk by the time they started. they thought the first 77 wave was all there was to it and immediately abandoned it. they went for obscurity. punk is about simplicity.
of course you can argue this with a 'what is punk' thing, but to most of us, its pretty clear what punk is and is not.
most post punk can go by a different sub genre, goth, new romanticism, new pop, dream pop, etc.. the good bands ave a lot of punk influence, like bauhaus or gang of four. some of them not so much, like the human league or blondie. even though blondie played cbgbs they are not, and werent ever really punk. bands that become disco acts lose any punk cred they ever had. i do like blondie though. atomic and dreaming are great songs.
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at September 13, 2010, 11:20am
Isn't Siouxsie and the Banshees post-punk? I like it a lot. Great thread by the way, it was lacking, goes good with my search for post-metal.
This is a an example of "classic" bands on the gerne posted on wiki, maybe the good person on here can guide on what really is post-punk and what not:
Wire
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Magazine
Public Image Limited
The Fall
Joy Division
New Order
New Model Army
Sad Lovers and Giants
Talking Heads
Gang of Four
The Sound
The Chameleons
Echo & the Bunnymen
The Birthday Party
Orange Juice
The Psychedelic Furs
Adam and the Ants
Ultravox
Lords of the New Church
The Monochrome Set
Section 25
Killing Joke
The Cure
Bauhaus
Devo
The Jesus and Mary Chain and Tubeway Army
those are pretty much THE post punk bands. like i said though, most post punk falls under a different sub genre. lots of goth bands on that list.
some of those bands predate punk though, like the talkin heads. they started in like 75. 76 maybe.
public image is the best example of post punk. because of rotten. same with magazine and devoto. they were sick of their boring punk bands and wanted more out of sound.
if you're really interested, check out this book, ive read it twice:
I understand that most bands generally fall under different sub-genres, but the genre itself remains rooted in Punk, so I felt this was the appropriate place to post about it.
Appreciate all of the recommendations, I'll give 'em a listen. As for the book rec. (Wasn't expecting that lol) I will definitely look into it.
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at September 15, 2010, 01:30am
Post-Punk, while enjoyable, doesn't really belong here.
Wire
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Magazine
Public Image Limited
The Fall
Joy Division
New Order
Sad Lovers and Giants
Talking Heads
Gang of Four
The Chameleons
Echo & the Bunnymen
The Birthday Party
The Psychedelic Furs
Lords of the New Church
Killing Joke
The Cure
Bauhaus
Devo
There are a ton of really good post-punk bands that really need to get more recognition than they get. I can get behind Gang of Four, The Fall, Joy Division and some of the other more well-known stuff for sure.
A Certain Ratio
Orange Juice (the dude way up with the list made a great call by listing them)
Josef K
Felt
23 Skidoo
Pere Ubu
This Heat (fuck did this band put out some great shit, and those Peel Sessions are incredible)
and all that No Wave stuff deserves to be mentioned here
A fair bit of Factory Records, and the Manchester music scene circa 1980 - 1982, are good places to look for Post-Punk bands and artists. Mainly Joy Division, the early singles and albums of A Certain Ratio, Biting Tongues, Cabaret Voltaire, Crispy Ambulance (Tony Wilson once said that their name was the worst name for a band ever), Durutti Column and many others.
